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11-27-2006
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Warrior2k is a fag
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Racism in Sf
Hey guys, im kiwi and have noticed that there is alot of racism in this game, this should be adressed soon if posible, on my server i have kick and sometimes banned peoples because of racist remarks, i would just like to c a stop to it thats all.
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11-27-2006
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I hate to say it, but everyone is a little bit racist, and sometimes we all go over the mark a little bit. It is the internet after all and we might (will) say things here that we might not say IRL. I am not condoning the racism, but I am saying, no-one is perfect and I am sure even you are guilty of what others may call "racism"
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11-27-2006
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Doctor of Medicine
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Could easily be Myg0t. They often use racist language to prompt angry reactions. The most important thing is to silently and promptly ban such players. The more reactions they can generate, the more successful they feel they have "raged" other players.
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11-27-2006
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Warrior2k is a fag
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no, this was from the <FU> clan leader
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11-27-2006
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I would like to add that also german players often are refferred to as Nazis or worse !
This is as untolerable like any other racism !
Greetings O'Neill
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11-27-2006
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Flag Capper
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Could be steiffers, he often uses racial slurs because they are cool in middle America.
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11-27-2006
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Trainer
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but isnt it just as bad to yell at new players for getting in the way? i mean they dont know what they are doing. and wat about those players who get really angry over the smallest reasons?perhaps any racial activity or any form of teasing them is just a way of sparking them up? i think all games get a bit tidious.  . I think its up to the player to brush these silly little insults and get on with the game, getting angry will just affect how you play and just make your team mates lives a utter hell.
btw. Being called a Nazi IS really way over the top..... i can understand if u booted people for that, even a ban.
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11-28-2006
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pwnstar
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mc_nebula
I hate to say it, but everyone is a little bit racist, and sometimes we all go over the mark a little bit. It is the internet after all and we might (will) say things here that we might not say IRL. I am not condoning the racism, but I am saying, no-one is perfect and I am sure even you are guilty of what others may call "racism"
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seriously, its the internet, shit happens. you just gota realize that alot of people are racest, sometimes alot more than we think (including yourself). no one likes it, no ones happy about it, but its just something you kinda gota live with. thats freedom of speach after all.
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Originally Posted by O'Neill[ger][stars-mbo]
I would like to add that also german players often are refferred to as Nazis or worse !
This is as untolerable like any other racism !
Greetings O'Neill
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haha, should we name every other slur too?
http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html
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11-28-2006
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^That guy you know...
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The Following is from Coyboy's racist slur encyclopedia:
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Eraser Head
Blacks
Because of their Afros looking like school chalkboard erasers.
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I guess my name is racist too. w00t!
Anyways, my brother and I use a lot of racist slurs back and forth when we talk to each other. There is no hate behind it, we just do it for fun and shock value. I say, if you can stay level-headed and keep reality seperate from prejudice, then they are nothing more than words with some shock value. When you start mixing the two or using them in a hateful, demeaning manner, it becomes racist.
I admit, I sometimes spurt out racist vocabulary on CSS for the sole purpose of watching people flame me while they can do nothing more. There is a certain fun-factor in words that are taboo. I remember when I learned the f-word in first grade. I didn't know what the hell it meant, but I knew it was off-limits and that is what made it fun.
As long as you don't say it out of hate, there is no ethical problem with it. Unfortunately, it real-life you have to worry about 3rd party interpretations. Here, we don't. Yay for the internet!
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12-02-2006
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Doctor of Medicine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by c0wb0ys7y13
seriously, its the internet, shit happens...no one likes it, no ones happy about it, but its just something you kinda gota live with. thats freedom of speach after all.
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Wow, with skin that thick, people who make racist remarks shouldn't be at all surprised when other "shit happens," like they get kicked from a server. There's at least a dozen ways to talk shit on a server that have nothing to do with someone's religion, race/ethnicity, mother or sexual orientation. Yes, it's really easy (though I would say it's in fact cheap) to come up with these remarks; as some have mentioned above, racism is in the culture almost everywhere. But why not direct your commentary on what's important: how people are playing the game? The fact that some dickhead is camping has nothing to do with the fact that he is or might be Hispanic, Bulgarian, a Hindu, or a trans-sexual. He's just playing like shit, so call him on what matters. If you simply must imply that he fellates goats, I can't really fault you for it, as that is a pretty equal-opportunity profession.
For people who respond, "that's just how I / we have fun," I would ask why you've become so desensitized to the actual meaning of the slurs you're throwing around that such a pasttime has become amusing. That's not fun, it's misunderstanding. I fully realize that some racial epithets have been co-opted by the popular culture and genuinely taken on new meanings, but it's also crystal clear that these terms can still be used to effectively and unambiguously malign different groups. When that happens, people should be shown the door.
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