While I do not support the leak, I think that the fact that it comes with the FGD is good. People can make maps that will be compatible with 2.0 when 2.0 is infact released.

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I went into CS:S and opened up a pretty highly populated server, with about 17 people and played for 15 min's racking up an ok KDR. Then, I blurted out:

"hey wow i typed "bind w "kill"" into console and the radar shows all the ts"

The next round, 3/4ths of the people on my team suddenly died. I was then banned for "hacking".
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There are many positives.

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One of the devs said that wouldnt change the fgd that much. If you tryed the leak you can put any v1.9.2 map in the map folder and play it with no problem.
you said u love the leak on xfire

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I'd love for you to say what they might be.

I loved the leak until I realized what harm it was doing, to the community and to the developers. However, I do love 2.0. Just not the leak and the problems it has caused.

Interesting about 1.9.2 stuff. Shame I don't have the leak installed, and never will.

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I went into CS:S and opened up a pretty highly populated server, with about 17 people and played for 15 min's racking up an ok KDR. Then, I blurted out:

"hey wow i typed "bind w "kill"" into console and the radar shows all the ts"

The next round, 3/4ths of the people on my team suddenly died. I was then banned for "hacking".
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http://flagdefence.net/leak/index.php?topic=4.0
A small list because I am too lazy.

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Only because they were trying to shut down the leak.
Only if you consider the forum being temporarily shut down, and 2 major clans discredited and banned from the forums communication.
It's only a matter of opinion. I find nothing to be really wrong. 1.9.0 was criticized as being flawed originally, as well. Look how popular it is.
I don't see a single real discussion about it on your pissy forums. Besides, there has been serious discussion for ages.
So much for improved dev communication with the community. Holy contradiction, batman!
If speak freely means being influenced by a biased report on a very, very incomplete alpha build of a game, it doesn't really mean much.

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I went into CS:S and opened up a pretty highly populated server, with about 17 people and played for 15 min's racking up an ok KDR. Then, I blurted out:

"hey wow i typed "bind w "kill"" into console and the radar shows all the ts"

The next round, 3/4ths of the people on my team suddenly died. I was then banned for "hacking".
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Also got to see how incompetent the devs are.

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Mind quoting the link? I'm also lasy, and dont want to make a new account.

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Wrong. The community has, publicly and privatly(sp?), begun to talk more about 2.0.0 and some small flaws, or that they think the game is super awsome.
These clans that you speak of get bitched at every day by the devs and if not by the devs then the rest of community. Most of the people in these clans have ALSO been here for 1.5+ years waiting for 2.0.0.
Its popular because it went from 1.9.0 to 1.9.1 to 1.9.2 which was, at the time, clear of most of its bugs. It's a popular game because of its playstyle. But after a year some people would like to see new and nicer models, new game style(so it is not just CTF), and more developer-to-community talk.
It has been a serious discussion, but has anything happened? No, maybe 3 or 4 ideas have been taken but the developers constantly ignore the community and we resort to these types or actions.
The dev's never spoke the community to begin with.
If you say one bad thing, or get one dev just a little angry...Your banned. I'll probobly be banned for giving you this report on my thoughts. Or I'll get banned for calling FicWill a Nazi.

P.S. Yes, I did bring out the good grammer for this post.

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What the leak has achieved
This list will evolve over time as we achieve more and more, however so far the leak has achieved the following:

* An increase in communication within the development team.
* An increase in communication with the community
* The discussion of certain flawed aspects of proposed gameplay
* Serious discussion by the development of 1.9.3, something the community have been talking about since 1.9.2 beta.
* Unveiling developer plans to completely close the forums down, ignore the community and pretend development had stopped and then carry on developing 2.0 without any input from the people that play the game.
* Giving players a place to speak freely about 2.0, without having topics locked or them getting banned.
* A venue to discuss or criticize work being done on SF without being heavily censored by the devs.

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