Without the substance this is a non-story. What's the difference between the US Gov restricting this information and the Guardian doing so>

@hsutreal

why don't you head over to wikileaks.org and find out (once the US DOS attacks have stopped)

I agree, hsutreal. Given the DoS attack, it falls to the fourth estate to ensure the empire builders can't operate in secrecy. The Guardian has given us nothing.

Tried to download data but could not; why is the Guardian using Google, an American Company to publish this information via Google documents and Google products? Looks like Google or someone else is censoring this information.

That's what happens when you go up against the Military Industrial Complex.

Please host this data on a non-Google site - constantly getting Error 502 here

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Google error here too.

Server Error

The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request.
Please try again in 30 seconds.

I wonder if this is a legal thing, the Guardian not wanting to be held liable for having this controversial material on its own servers.

The wikileaks insurance file is out there now. DOS is a panic move.

Thanks a lot Guardian - it is not possible to export the fusion table data and the spreadsheet is denying me permission to even access it.

Guys - even if you get access to the fusion tables, you WON'T be able to download them.

FFS!

@lucitex - What, they allow you to go ahead with the leak and then attempt to feebly bring the site down temporarily? What a dystopian horror!

These "one man against the Empire" cyber wars were predicted in numerous works of cyberpunk fiction.

What makes you think it is a DOS?

It could be millions of people trying to access the same resource. That is in essence a DOS attack.

Can we just have a nice, fat zip archive please?

Also, your map shows 1,490 cables from Wellington, NZ, but they're not in your visualisation. We here in NZ would love to know what the Merkins were doing behind our backs.

TO EVERYONE WHO CAN'T DOWNLOAD THE DATA:

1) you need to log into your google account
2) then, the "export" button magically is enabled, and you can download it.

have fun.

700c: presumably because it looks different to sysadmins who poke it. Also, it started before the data actually went up.

It's amazing that while the Guardian is trying not only to publish the leak of this data to people like myself who are not regular 'Wikki Leaks' surfers, and to provide means by which to 'digest' what is a massive amount of data, people are attacking the Guardian.
There is probably a big move to ensure the lowest possible distribution of this information - I doubt very much that the Guardian is complicit in such a move.
A little respect where it is due and understanding of the impact that the release of such data is having in the US administration might be more appropriate.

sigbhu

28 November 2010 7:43PM

TO EVERYONE WHO CAN'T DOWNLOAD THE DATA:

1) you need to log into your google account
2) then, the "export" button magically is enabled, and you can download it.

have fun.

Just gets me the same old blank-screen fuck-up. This sucks.

download the wikileaks insurance file here (torrent).

It doesn't really matter that if the fusion table works or not, the key phrase here is "without the actual content". It only contains the subject and to/from fields, it's pretty much useless.

AtaBrit

28 November 2010 7:48PM

It's amazing that while the Guardian is trying not only to publish the leak of this data to people like myself who are not regular 'Wikki Leaks' surfers, and to provide means by which to 'digest' what is a massive amount of data, people are attacking the Guardian.
There is probably a big move to ensure the lowest possible distribution of this information - I doubt very much that the Guardian is complicit in such a move.
A little respect where it is due and understanding of the impact that the release of such data is having in the US administration might be more appropriate.

You'd have thought the US administration would have learned by now surely! Or not...

"A little respect"? eh? What respect have governments showed other countries when they bomb, maim and lie to them?

Very poor.

I love the way the US government denounces the leaks as 'irresponsible' after occupying an innocent country and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

Should we not be concentrating on whats happening over in North Korea with American forces about to test out sea Defences along side south Korean forces. Surely with all the bad publicity that America could well and truly do without right now is digging an even deeper hole towards possible war? It is time to start to watch whats about to happen, not what has Happened. Gisky1

There's probably several million people trying to access this stuff.

Server overload.

Despite the pathetic attempts to control this by various Governments - the truth will come out, given time.

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Zip archive of the cable headers (4MB) - http://bit.ly/gPqi67 - much easier to use than 26MB spreadsheet. Download it and grep it yourself.

Hello
Obviously, the traffic for this has been very high - we've now added a straight 16MB CSV download of the data - which you can get here. Please shout if that doesn't work either.

If you can get into the Google Fusion version, just go to FILE and DOWLOAD to download it.

Remember, it's just the date, time, sender and tags for each cable, not the body text itself, which we've decided not to publish

anyone know if wikileaks have any intention of releasing the complete original files?

The date, time, sender and tags for each cable are totally meaningless without the body text. Why even bother providing it?

You've effectively censored the content. Looks like the UK's mainstream media is just as corrupt as ours here in the States.

Go to http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/

ALL the text is there!

Torrent of the Guardian csv file here.

The official Cablegate site only has the full text from 219 of the transmissions at present (they're staggering the release of the data).

Here's a Coral Cache link to the Cablegate site for much faster browsing:

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org.nyud.net/

Riveting X sent Y a secret cable about Z.

What did it say?

We're not telling you.

Hilariously useless guff from the Guardian. They want Cif'ers to take the risk by going onto Wiki then coming back to the Graun & posting the interesting stories. All the news; none of the risks.

I was flabbergasted to receive an e-mail from the Guardian alerting me to the articles they are running on this and inviting me to visit the site to read them.

note to administrator: why not use an FTP site with multiple mirrors!!! i just don't get this method of data distribution..

wikileaks was intercepted by government. but they set up a new one. click here, serch by 'origin' or location/city and find embassy communications.

wikileaks was intercepted by government. but they set up a new one. click here, serch by 'origin' or location/city and find embassy communications.

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/

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Having readthe comments on this thread I can only conclude that most of the contributors are on a par with the british public who think that Anne Widdecombe can dance. Grow up it's a nast little world beyond Islington and Teffnel Park.

What a lot of whingers.

some of the stuff I quite interesting the king of Saudi has said if Iran gets nuclear weapons so will we and from what the Kuwaitis are say Iran is basically sabre rattling about Israel with the aim of gaining more influence in Iraq and Egypt etc

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2010/02/10KUWAIT142.html

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2010/02/10RIYADH178.html

Isn't there a DA notice on this, which means the UK govt has asked the Guardian not to publish.. wonder how this applies to comments?

http://www.ianfraser.org/the-wikileaks-d-notice-in-full-but-will-it-work/

All these leakings only make all of us more insecure and more imperiled. Now, diplomats and nations would hesitate communicating or seeking the opinons and advice of other nations. In short, nations would be more predispose to acting unilaterally instead of being in counsultation with each other. STOP ALL THESE LEAKINGS NOW.

ramosgene

- you have to be joking? Do you really think US diplomats are spying on the UN to make us more secure?

The real reason behind not releasing the content of the cables, is money. The Guardian, NYT, Der Spiegel and El Pais, made an arrangement with Assange, and they will milk into news as much as possible the content of the cables, which will remain as secret as they were before.

Basically, all these media giants have been used as bullhorns about the existence of classified, secret info, but they want to get as much mileage as they can before the cables become public property, and readers don't care about TG, NYT, DS or EP reselling and rehashing the cables, since they will have the real thing.

Same reason for Assange and Wikileaks to release the cables by drops, that being part of the agreement with the media giants, who are all doing a disservice to themselves, the readers, and freedom of the press.

Tao

sohail20

You'll get put on the naughty step.
We need a leak from wikileaks.

Taoist think most people will pay for the analysis - few will bother to download and trawl through all this so there will be something to sell regardless. You seem to be ignoring the DA notice also but. obviously the Guardian strives to be a profitable product but that doesn't necessarily mean it is without values

Journalism doesn't mean satisfying the squawking demands of the obsessive-compulsive for raw data dumps. I'll take whatever the grauniad chooses to publish, when it chooses to publish it. Thanks guys.

The report headlined on this website's homepage, along with its 900+ reader comments, seems to have has disappeared. Did some hypocrite in management get cold feet or what?

I enjoyed the part where US embasy staff are requested to collect DNA, biometric and other data on world leaders, UN staff, etc. I can just imagine Americans all over the world sneaking behing people to pull a hair out or running into the toilets to collect stool samples. A subjet for a very funny movie indeed.

I also loved the parts about the Middle East where Egyptian and other Arab officials clearly act as informers to US agencies. Also noted that, judging by their names, many of the American officials meeting with Israelis may be Jewish themselves, so imagine the scenario where Israelis and Jewish Americans are running Middle Eastern Affairs. No wonder Middle East peace is not happening.

Many people will have a ball reading these papers, but I tell you, many US and world leaders will need extra courage to show their faces in public...

Jeez...

The data is easier to read from wikileaks itself. For example, using L as the origin (London Embassy) will pull up the text.

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org