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March 16, 2012 10:12:00pm |
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I'm with you diversity of models. Education to me is like beer. There are many types. Some people drink the same their whole lives. Others always trying a new variety. Some brew their own, others buy Bud Light. Some drink a lot of beer, others don't touch the stuff. There are some people in the world who sadly can't drink beer of any type or amount even if they want too. Some people say beer is healthy, others see it as unhealthy. Some beer is free, some costs a fortune. So education is like beer. There is no right one. Only that we have it available is the most important thing. Beyond that, to each his own, and let's hope good taste prevails. Wikipedia is a bit of a homebrew compared to the public school Budweiser.
Gerry I've worked on Wikipedia since 2003, almost daily, and have pretty good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses. Remember, "original research" is not a dirty word, but on Wikipedia it is. Teach students the value of original thought and having an (informed) opinion because Wikipedia is the opposite of that, it's basically a journalism site for reporting on and summarizing what other people have said, hopefully in a complete and balanced way. Not to say that model isn't important or useful. Another type of beer :)
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garthus1 |
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March 17, 2012 06:38:05am |
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Stbalbach,
I agree with you completely, there is plenty of room to be creative with the Archive and other venues. I can see where some original work can be slipped in to Wikipedia by citing self-published materials on the Archive though. An what about papers published at conferences, I placed all of that in the public Domain. In any case, Wikipedia is an excellent resource for education and I think that it is getting better by the day. If anything, Public education is becoming more irrelevant by the day. My daughter goes to a private school overseas and gets a far better education than we can imagine here in the United States. Those students are learning three languages and they are under the age of ten years. I have college students who know almost nothing concerning English Grammar or even basic writing skills. In any case I like the Beer analogy.
Gerry
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stbalbach |
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March 18, 2012 08:38:38am |
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Gerry,
You may also be interested in the Wikipedia Research Newsletter
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/16/wikimedia-research-newsletter-first-volume-new-features/Congrats at finding an alternative to public school for your daughter, alternative country even. Some of the best schools in the world are in the US but only for a minority. I went to 13 different schools in my first 13 years of school, small/large, private/public, alternative(liberal)/conservative, secular/religious, day/boarding - each had its strength and weakness. It would be impossible to combine into one perfect school. Public school was a mess though, more about survival.
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March 21, 2012 09:19:33am |
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Stbalbach,
Yes she is lucky, but it also took some planning and I think with the advances everyday concerning the Internet and Digital Education tools, the Information can more easily be provide to anyone with a network connection. I constantly emphazie to my students that it is about three thing:
1 - Getting the Information
2 - Validating the Information
3 - Integrating and using the information for the problem at hand.
This is where I think Wikipedia is of such importance, it provides a good starting point for research.
Gerry
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