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stbalbach |
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September 02, 2011 09:02:58pm |
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Re: Search Results for Multi-Volume Works are Unhelpful |
I agree with what your saying. Open access to edit metadata would be great to have. It's been requested for.. well since IA started.
Until that day, here are some solutions in a roundabout way. Three methods I've used:
1. "Write a review". Search will catch whatever content is in the review, so you could add a note with the correct title and series number and date, and future searches should pick it up. You could "review" each book in the series adding the correct info.
2. Create an offsite master list. I did this for one series which can be
seen here as example. It has the advantage of not being limited to Internet Archive in case some volumes are found elsewhere. Search won't find it, though could add the URL in a review, per #1.
3. Edit the data at openlibrary.org, which is open for anyone to edit, and connects back to Internet Archive from that site.
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Prof. Mark |
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October 10, 2011 08:32:10am |
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A systemic solution would be to enable the Volume field for every instance of a multi-volume work, then populate it correctly. Evidently, archive.org can't do this, for whatever reason. What archive.org could do is request that new uploads provide that metadata. After all, when an upload does so, that metadata is displayed.
For documents already in the archive, all we can do is provide work-arounds. I do two things:
1. As suggested, I provide Volume info in "Write a review" as I encounter problems and have to do research. I regard this as an occasional public service, not an ongoing project. I do the same if there are problems of edition/series, author errors, title errors, omissions (e.g. missing illustrations), quality of scan, etc.
2. If the catalogue record is linked to the wrong set of files (or the wrong OpenCat record), I email archive.org, giving the URLs and describing the problem. In all, this takes 1 sentence and 5 lines (2 text, 2 URL, 1 blank).
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September 03, 2011 06:02:46pm |
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We have to look at this in perspective. The main goal is to put as many items up as is possible. Cataloging questions can always be addressed later. Actually, the cataloging may be a lot more labor intensive than the actual digitizing of the items. Of course, one could always create a page which links to the items as desired. Any multi-volume items I put up have this done in the meta-data. I guess it would be easier if those putting up the works did this from the beginning. We cannot complain though, at least the items have been digitized. Using the open library would help also, but entails more work and many of us are hard pressed to just digitize the items we are uploading.
Gerry
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September 29, 2011 07:41:31pm |
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Re: Search Results for Multi-Volume Works are Unhelpful |
"The main goal is to put as many items up as is possible."
Why is that the main goal? By the way, i'm not being sarcastic or flippant, it's something i've pondered since reading an article somewhere (sorry i forget the source) where that was mentioned regarding the archive.org goals. To me, it rather comes across as a race-to-the-finish type approach or attitude, and for what reason? Is the earth going to end tomorrow? Will we function better as a society by having immediate access and everything now now now?? In other words, what is the urgency? And yes, i realize that paper texts are not going to last forever, but can there not be some perspective applied?
There was a time when people took the long view and their creations were and are remarkable to behold, and rich with a quality of the infinite that we as a society have replaced instead with a zeal for wanting it all now. More more more, now now now.
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 Jeff Kaplan |
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September 03, 2011 06:54:22pm |
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Re: Search Results for Multi-Volume Works are Unhelpful |
A couple of other considerations:
Internet Archive policy is to not alter content uploaded by and items created by users except at the uploader's request. Some of the items mentioned in the original post were uploaded by users of the archive.
Also, MARC records are used to populate the metadata as often as possible. At this point MARC records generally recognize volume and serial works as a single work and do not necessarily recognize each volume to have a unique MARC record. Often one record covers all the volumes.
This post was modified by Jeff Kaplan on 2011-09-04 01:54:22
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