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Poster:	Jeff Kaplan	Date:	June 20, 2011 02:09:22pm
Forum:	opensource	Subject:	Re: virus operating in Internet Archive

without giving me urls i'm speculating but the links you are talking about are to pages we have not captured so it goes to the live web. is this message at the top?:"The Wayback Machine hasn't archived a capture for that URL.
Here's a capture taken 0 minutes ago from the live web that will become part of the permanent archive in the next few months."

if so that means we do not have it and the page you are looking at is what is live on the web for that url.

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Poster:	Gwern Branwen	Date:	July 09, 2011 12:47:53pm
Forum:	opensource	Subject:	Re: virus operating in Internet Archive

I was googling about this livesite stuff, and this seems to be the only actual discussion of this message.

What exactly is livesite's relation to the archive? When I visited one old URL specified in a sitemap (http://evaotaku.tripod.com/sitemap.xml - probably why it wasn't archived a decade ago), I got the messsage, which seems to imply that the URL has been captured and stored in the IA subject to the usual embargo period; screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/4tsnA.png

But when I go to a *new* URL, a blog post by Charles Stross that just went up and so could not possibly be available in the archive yet, I see no header or message of any kind, just the blog post itself: http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2011/07/yes-but-what-are-your-credenti.html

So, I'm confused. Is the message honest and the Stross post is being discriminated against for some reason I cannot see? Or is the message random, and accessing through the livesite has nothing to do with getting archived or not?

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