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after this second debate we're seeing that romney's down 5%, and has trailed down to 35%. so it will be interesting to see that if romney can't get above that overall trendline that we've seen for the past year, which is at that 40 level, he's probably not going to win. so it's in the charts. it's not what you think, it's what you see in the charts. just like everything we do here at the marketplace. > > and people are making money on this. traders are making money on this as we're going along here. > > exactly, you put money down, you're buying shares of one candidate verses another; and again, it's an unregulated market - overseas, it's a probability market. but it's amazing how it's a great predictor of future outcomes. > > alan, what will they think of next? good to have you on the show. thanks for enlightening us, and you'll join us tomorrow for traders unplugged. coming up tomorrow in traders unplugged, the real deal on how traders are making money on the housing comeback. we hope you will join us. from all of us at first business, have a great thursday! . >>> good morn

as they are in the middle east. if romney goes down that list -- >> how does romney avoid bret's point, the argument obama will pin on to him, he wants to get into another war, folks. he won't say that explicitly, but that will be the undercurrent of all his argument. americans are war weary. >> i would say what obama said to romney in the last debate, mr. president, that's offensive. nobody runs for the presidency saying he wants to get into war. their goal is to prevent war. he should explain why his policies will prevent war. >> does romney even need to win this debate? i'm not so sure he does. seems to me what he needs to do is to seem competent, fluent, knowledgeable, serious, not make a mistake. if he plays on a relatively playing field and looks good, even if he doesn't win on points, i think that basically is all he needs to do here, then make the point that foreign policy strength debates on economic revival at home. >> i think romney needs to win every debate. i think to the extent that this campaign thinks it has it in the bag -- >> oh, no, saying that. >> -- they're making a big mistake. there

and quiet romney down. what appalled me the most is when the two issues where americans died the president did not answer the question. he did not address "fast and furious" and he did not give us a straight answer on libya. that is five americans dead. >> you give it to obama, and cnn did, but you hook at the issues, like the economy and health care and taxes and deficit and leadership, he kills. romney wins on the issues how does that work? >> it tells you something that in a situation like we are in now, any plausible republican should be ahead by seven or eight points, and the reason that it is tough to beat an incumbent president is you have to have someone to take his place when romney went through the problems everyone has heard that before. what he did not come up with is a single, single, single answer to what he would do. i thought the best moment was when obama said we don't have a plan, and romney had some good moments but rebound came back and he had him on the defense all night long. >> that is why he is doing poorly, the real president obama came back and in all of the key a

-point lead over romney, down from 15 points a month ago thanks in large part to the attack in bengahzi on september 11th that killed four americans including ambassador chris stevens. president obama was requested about who was to blame for the attack on the jon stewart on "the daily show" with jon stewart. >> obama: every piece of information that we get as we got it we laid it out for the american people. >> i would say even you would say it was not the optimal response at least to the american people as far as us all of us being on the same page. >> obama: here's what i'm going to say as far as four americans getting killed, it's not optimal, and we'll fix it. >> all of it. >> obama: all of it. >> eliot: john mccain is it not like either response on the fox news this morning. >> the optimal line was regrettable and makes me feel sad. for him to say that every piece of information they got they laid out to the american people was one of the most disengenius statements i her heard. >> eliot: reporting within 24 hours of the attack that there was evidence it was carried out by militant

mitt romney and the key state is ohio. notice most of the polls in ohio show mitt romney down. so you can have a situation where barack obama wins the electoral college and mitt romney wins the popular vote. it's only happened three times in history. >> how certain are you that could happen? >> the odds aren't great. virginia is in a central state and in a clear politics average mitt romney tied or has gone ahead of barack obama. everybody's watching which is with the, when 2.5, 3 points and new hampshire and iowa are still in play. only a half dozen states and romney has a clear advantage in the popular vote. but in those six key states he's either tied or losing. >> talk about the women's vote. they've seen fascinating movement here. in florida, for example, we talked about it a few momentses ago, a big jump there. what do you make of that and do you see this as a trend across the country? >> it is a trend. and the women and particularly women age 30 to 49, under age 30 they're solidly in obama's campbell. over age 50, in mitt romney's camp. the campaigns are fighting over them and

along with romney and seemed to enjoy it because he shot romney down at 10:00 on libya and romney crumbled from there and did not end very well. >>shepard: the republicans are saying he missed an opportunity. it was clear that in the weeks after that terror attack that set that up as a moment for last night and it didn't happen, according to most analysts. >>guest: prescribe's tone tone -- president obama's tone was that i am the commander in chief, you are not, i understand what is going on, on the ground, and you don't. the tone is unsettled. that hurt romney. >>shepard: you cannot overlook the candy crowley objection, there were a number of way she could have got, and there was a lot of pressure, but you could is said, well, if you said that night it was a terror attack and that is what you meant, what was susan rice on the sunday morning shows on the following day. that would have been an easier thing from which form could pivot. >>guest: that is right. in the spin room after the debate the romney campaign surrogates were saying they were flabbergasted what the president was s

taking down governor romney, i think the president won, i think to the extent that winning a debate and the coverage that will get will stabilize things for him, i think it is a great night for him. but i am not sure it does anything but key up the third debate to give both of them another chance to break the tie. >> rose: john heilemann. >> charlie, i think the story coming out of this debate to say you, to say kind of what al hunt started out with i think will be the president battles back, and, you know, he clearly was, i thought on some really key issues where he was completely lame two weeks ago he was very strong and very clear. he scored some pretty direct hits on the question of governor romney's tax plan. he focused pretty intently on some demographic groups that really matter to the obama campaign. he focused on with his answers on planned parenthood, his answers on zero other the women's issues and flaind a focused way on those issues and scored some points on the issues surrounding immigration, where his support and enthusiasm of his large lead with the hispanic communit

the government not stepped up the entire sector would have shut down. let ohio take note. second romney's tax plan really doesn't add up. a 5 trillion-dollar hole cannot be filled by less than a trillion raised by capping deductions. he said several things. the plan is revenue neutral. the rich will stay pay the same percentage of tax bill that they've been paying, and the middle class is getting a tax cut. those pieces don't add up. it is simple arithmetic. i don't think they have run the numbers or even actually have a plan. that is why they won't give us any specifics. third, on foreign policy, romney tried to capitalize on the festering anxiety over the tragedy the bengahzi but has no answers or ideas when it comes to libya syria or iran. bellicose language does not a foreign policy make. finally with respect to guns both candidates failed us. i wanted to avert my eyes during the efforts to dodge and bob and weave. a simple i have caved to the nra and i am doing what i know to be wrong would have been better. i'm comfortably confident that the resurgent president will survive the re-elec

romney sat down with the editorial board on tuesday of last week and they talked about abortion. let's take a listen. >> there are no positions regarding to abortion and that would be part of my agenda. one change would be done by executive order is that our would reinstate the mexico city policy, which is that foreign aid dollars for the united states would not be used to carry out abortion in other countries. >> that is audio for mitt romney's sit down. >> that was surprising on a number of levels. his campaign has been very disciplined lately. that was not the right place. it was probably something that he should not have said under any circumstances. >> what does that mean to you? >> i will be generous here. what i think it means is that he picked paul ryan, and he views the economy as the biggest issue facing the next president. he will put every single bit of his effort into that. once that is fixed, then you can turn to other issues, which is probably a view that is shared by the vast majority of americans. especially dealing with issues of life and abortion, that is not somet

the last few days have romney down one in ohio so he gained a lot of in ohio. i love people always say he's behind in ohio. we've just seen him move by five to seven points. he could move another three our four. he's generally outperformed. its hard to believe he's going to trail his national vote in ohio by -- what romney has to do tomorrow is be presidential. less the challenger, less the prosecutor and be the next president. a foreign policy debate, voters don't have checklists. argue agree with me on abortion, on guns, are you for tax cuts or saving medicare. most voters have a kind of firm view about what should be done and negotiating strategy for iran. they want to see, especially for a challenger to win, they want to see him as someone who is up to being president. with the judgment, maturity, knowledge, toughness but sort of soundness, to be president. i think for romney, if he can be the next president of the united states and not a guy who is arguing with the current president and challenging him and fact checking, if he could be presidential, he's in pretty good shape. >> how

private polls the last few days have romney down one in ohio so he has gain add lot in ohio. people say, well, he is behind, but we have seen him move by five, six, or seven points but he can move because ohio is not bad for ohio and outperformed the national average. if romney is up a point or two, it is hard to believe he will trail the national vote in ohio by much. he has to be presidential tomorrow night, less the challenger to the president, the prosecutor of the president but the next president of the united states. voters do not have a checklist, do you agree on abortion? are i for tax cuts in not what we do with iran or syria, they want to see especially for a challenger, they want to see him as someone up to being the president with the judgment, maturity, knowledge, toughness, but soundness, to be president. so, for romney, if he can be the next president of the united states, and not kind of a guy who is arguing with the current president and challenging him and fact checking in, if romney can be presidential tomorrow night he is in good shape. >>chris: how do you think he s

the offense by that. go ahead. >> well, look, they want to pin romney down. they want him to say i'm going to eliminate the mortgage tax deduction. >> bill: you don't have to do that. >> that's exactly right. all he has to do and he did that in the first debate. he said, for example, we can cap the deductions at a certain amount of money, period. and the other thing he can say and that he will say and that he had said is this: he turns it around on obama. he says, look, your own debt reduction commission, the one you appointed and then ignored said that every year the government foregoes $1.1 trillion of revenue because of deductions, loopholes and exemptions. over 10 years that's $11 trillion minimum. and i'm only going to -- i'm only going to use broaden the base, eliminate deductions at about a third of that the way i'm going to do it, unlike what you did, which is to ram through obama care purely on your party's vote, without gettingsultation from the other side, i'm going to do it in a way that it should be done. >> bill: that's specific, charles, you are agreeing with me. that's spe

're campaigning on trying to tear mitt romney down, talk about women's issues. there are three major women's issues that will help decide this election. the first one is when the soccer moms pull up to the gas pump and put 14 or 15 gallons of gas in it and have to pay $60. the second one is when the lady of the house goes to the checkout counter at the supermarkets, thinking she owes $50s, and the bill is $75, because the value of the dollar has gone down, and the third one is in october or november, about this time, and they look around, the daughter or son that came in last june after graduating for a couple weeks until they found a job, they find out they still haven't found a job, and they've been in the house for five months, and they're still looking for work. those are the three women's issues that are going to make a difference in this election. >> greta: governor, thank you. always nice to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: and tonight, there is big news from the key swing states, great state of wisconsin. president obama, as you may recall, carried wisconsin by 14 points in 20

that the united states should be able to sit down directly with iran right now? >> governor romney had said that arms should be the last. i will not comment on that story. the white house has denied it. i will say this, i think so much of our relationship with iran was under this president was defined early in his administration when folks took to the streets in that green revolution. president took his hands off and said that he wasn't going to get engaged or involved. unfortunately, that set a tone where now iran thinks they can go harder and much faster than they could go. >> senator rubio, thank you a lot for your time. i apologize again for those technical difficulties. >> thank you. >>> and we'll be back with our powerhouse roundtable in just 90 seconds. it's something you're born with. and inspires the things you choose to do. you do what you do... because it matters. at hp we don't just believe in the power of technology. we believe in the power of people when technology works for you. to dream. to create. to work. if you're going to do something. make it matter. that if you pick th

, again, i think romney has made huge strides with latinos in florida, especially when you see with like the enthusiasm in the cuban community, down in south florida. many who voted for obama in 2008, they're shifting towards romney. >> so you think the use of self-deportation, the use of the illegals, is not going to be an issue for this voting group? >> well, again, as i explained, governor romney has presented a long-term immigration policy, that as we know -- >> but it's the connotation that i'm talking about. what it conotes about what's valuable to a certain group. i understand what you said about his plan. >> we can fight -- you know, talk about the terminology. but if you look at what the hispanics are suffering under the obama economy, where under 10% of unemployment rate for hispanics, that's greater number than the average american. secondly, you have the poverty rate of his pacs has skyrocketed under obama. i mean, this is just not acceptable for the hispanic community. and so i think that -- >> mercedes, i want to get to this while we have some time left. that's the issue of

whole campaign has to take mitt romney down, and that only gets you so far. >> i -- >> i agree and disagree. look, i think that president obama did exactly what a lot of democrats wanted him to do for a long time. punch back, point out the holes and go through the holes. he did that very effectively. on top of his game. come back to mitt romney. i thought he had a better strategy, because he kept on coming back to jobs and most effective when he talked about that. >> and i don't think he presented an overarching vision that people felt like they were understood. he felt like a guy with a little bit of this, little wit of that. >> we'll see mitt romney and his wife talking about the crowd. we're doing some fact checking. let's go to wolf. >> a lot of folks were stated. some were facts. others not necessarily so. trying to figure out whether the candidates were actually telling the truth in tonight's debate. john berman ready with the several of reality checks. >> exclusive exchange on oil drilling and energy production on federal land. under president obama production on governm

or reality. and so if the questioners or the moderator is not allowed to pin mitt romney down, he has to find a way to get in there and respond to the questions from the people. and at the same time, i also have a lot of vigor and do what gene suggested, yes, he's made these accomplishments so far but this is where things will head should you re-elect him. >> that's a lot -- that alone. >> done improv as you have. that's like -- >> a word and a location and a beginning phrase, yes. it's a lot. it's a lot for him to handle. scott, chronicler of all things romney. there are two things at play here. one is the moderate mitt and the pivot to the center and the other mitt, part and parcel of that persona, the mitt that cares about all americans, right. i wonder what's more important for him to establish in your mind and more effectively establish? >> they set before the last debate knowing this would be their biggest audience they recast him in a big way where it threw obama off. we've seen the polls in the last couple weeks suggest this, the accessible mitt, the mitt romney that can win this elec

him a lot because it gave president obama the ability to stare down governor romney and look like the commander in chief and it's all about leadership in the end and president obama looked like a strong, be effective leader. >> governor ed rendell and ana marie cox, thank you for your time this evening. >>> one quick note. as i've said many times on this show, you can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts. all day we've had our team researching the biggest whopper from last night's debate. we've now fact-checked them and put them on our facebook page for you. please check it out. go to facebook.com/politicsnation for our special fact check of mitt romney. coming up, never did i think i would hear the quote, binders full of women in a national debate. but do governor romney's binders even exist? we've got big news out of boston today and a president on the attack. >>> i've got to tell you, we don't have to collect a bunch of binders to find driven, young women and ready to teach in these fields right now. >>> and the whopper's gain came faster than a burger king

for the first three years, 5600 new leases. down 42%. governor romney is right on that issue. towards the end of the soundbite that he played there, the issue was oil and gas production. oil and gas production on federal land. megyn: that is where obama wanted to go. he just wanted to talk about production. >> exactly. direct contradiction about the factual matter. oil and gas production on federal land -- this is production, stuff coming out of the ground, down. governor romney is right and the president -- it has gone up and not down. romney is right and obama is wrong. actually, that is what it is. megyn: he says it may have gone down because these oil companies are sitting there and not using federal lands for the user plans. >> he doesn't like it, drilling, and he took away these leases from oil companies because he really wanted to cut down on drilling. the oil companies point out. you don't know whether you have oil underneath the ground or not. it takes a long time to figure out whether it is there or not. the president says we are not waiting for that. megyn: i want to ask you about

. >> obama: production is up. >> romney: production on oil on land is 14% and production of gas is down 9%. >> obama: that's not true. >> romney: you're a person who will push for oil gas and coal. you'll get your chance in a moment. i'm still speaking. >> obama: well, i want to answer your question. >> romney: that was not a question. have you looked at your pension. >> obama: you know i don't look at my pension. it's not as big as yours. it wouldn't take as long. i don't check it that often. >> romney: let me give you some advice, look at your pension. >> cenk: let me give you some advice, mitt romney stop talking. mitt romney was totally misleading on the oil from federal land. do you know what happened under obama's watch? oil production went up 14%. what is romney talking about? one year where permits went down. why did it go down? because the bp disaster. they put a moratorium for one year. even despite that production went up. do you want to keep going romney. >> obama: please proceed governor. >> cenk: by all means but let's be fair to romney he had a really good moment in the deb

to be president. be a strong leader with a vision for the future and he must eviscerate. he has to take romney down. >> the other thing, with both guys go for the title tonight? >> no. >> does anybody pull back? i think they go for the knockout. >> they're warmed up, carved up, pumped up, ready to take each other on. the critical thing is romney has run a campaign that's flipped and flopped and moved all over the place. by so doing i'm not sure the american voter really knows what this man is about. >> maybe they don't want to know. >> here's the thing, during that debate with joe bie joe biden w out debates, paul ryan said he doesn't think judges should have decided on the roe v. wade case. that's what you get when you throw punches. >> got him shook up enough to say he didn't think reproductive rights were rights. they could be legislated by states -- >> paul ryan said he didn't think the judges make that decision. who should? >> a lot is koth kcosmetic. remember george bush looking at the watch -- >> this is what sullivan said in "the daily beast," i said, should he look down at his papers,

president obama and governor romney down in boca raton, florida, as it has in the past, just might hold the key to winning the white house. there are 29 electoral votes up for grabs. the last nbc news/"wall street journa journal"/marist poll shows the candidates in a statistical dead heat. most other polls show the race just as tight. now florida voters have an uncanny ability to pick a winner. four years ago the race went to barack obama when he topped john mccain by 3%. 2004 george bush beat john kerry by five points and, of course, few will forget florida took center stage in 2000, that razor thin margin that separated the candidates. after a recount dispute george w. bush won by just more than 500 votes. and right now we're in the center of it all. hillsborough county, which includes tampa, has picked the presidential winner every time but once since 1960. it's a place that mirrors the nation, the economy has been hit hard here, unemployment is a big problem. coming up, we'll look at why florida is such an important prize in the race for the white house. >>> i'll also speak to forme

on government land is down. >> obama: no it isn't romney: production is down 14% and production of gas is down 9% >> obama: just not true romney: it's absolutely true. look there's no question but the people recognize that we have not produced more oil and gas on federal lands and in federal waters and coal production is not up. coal jobs are not up. i was just at a coal facility where some 1200 people lost their jobs. the right course for america is to have a true all of the above olicy. i don't think anyone really believes that you're a person who is is going to be pushing for oil and gas and coal. you'll get your chance in a moment. i'm still speaking. the answer is i don't believe people think that's the case... that wasn't a question. that was a statement. i don't think the american people believe that. i will fight for oil, coal and natural gas. the proof of whether a strategy is working or not is what the price is that you're paying at the pump. if you're paying less than you paid a year or two ago, why then the strategy is working. but you're paying more. when theresident took office the

the republican nominee was down, the president put his rhetorical heel on mr. romney's throat, to make sure he stayed down. a tactic he took with him on the campaign trail today. >> i've got to tell you, we don't have to collect a bunch of binders to find qualified, talented, driven young women, ready to learn and teach in these fields right now. >> yes, binders full of women. mr. romney has delivered world class stupidity during this campaign but few have stirred the passion on his answer on how he would bridge the pay gap between men and women. >> we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet. i went to a number of women's groups and said, can you help us find folks? they brought us whole binders full of women. >> amazing. mitt's version of right to choose is to give women the option of being a two or thre three-hole punch. but this is romnmitt romney, remember? it's not just his foolish asides you have to keep up with, it's his loose interpretation of the word "fact" which unfortunately for him they were chec

what governor romney has to say. he said, he thought it was tragic the way we ended the war in iraq. said double down on this. said we should still have troops in iraq. just said this a couple weeks ago. i think that was a mistake. >> reporter: the president still remains vulnerable on libya, even as more information comes out about what the intelligence community knew shortly after those attacks. as you know there was this narrative that the controversial film may have been behind the attacks. so there are mounting questions about transparency here at the white house and libya no doubt will be a big issue at the debates. >> i assume not just libya, syria, iran, what's going on with u.s. relations with russia, china, and of course the whole war on terror. lots of questions on that t so is he going through all these issues, issues he's dealt with in the fast four years. >> reporter: he is going through all those issues and as you know the campaign has been second retive about specifics when it comes to preparation going into the debates but clearly they understand that mitt romney wi

for what many said was a poor performance. >> following that show down mitt romney saw a surge in the polls as we are seeing right now. the talk show circuit both campaigns are out in full force talking about the strategies ahead of the debate. previewing what will be a more aggressive approach. listen here. >> i think the president nobody is a harsher critic than himself. he viewed the tape. he will make adjustments on tuesday. i am not going to get into detail about strategic changes that he might make. i encourage you to watch and show up. i think it will be an interesting debate. he will be aggressive in making the case for his view of where we should go as a country in a country that is built around a growing, thriving middle class for t not this top down theory romney has. >>> the debate preparation for mitt romney is talking this morning. he expects the president to take a tougher approach tomorrow. >> i think president obama is going to come out swinging he is going to compensate for a first debate. that's what they are doing for the whole campaign which is running an ad campaign hu

. >> governor, you're the last person who's going to get tough on china. >> reporter: romney didn't back down and he adroitly turned the debate back again and again to the grim statistics of the great recession. >> he's great as a speaker and describing his plans and his vision, that's wonderful, except we have a record to look at. >> reporter: on libya, romney may have stumbled, claiming it took the president 14 days to recognize the attack that killed four americans as a terrorist incident. >> i think it's interesting that the president said on the day of the attack he went on the rose garden and said this was an act of terror. >> that's what i did. >> you said in the rose garden, the day after the attack it was an act of terror? it was not a spontaneous demonstration? is that what you're saying? >> please proceed, governor. >> i want to make sure we get that for the record. because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror. >> get the transcript. >> he did in fact, sir. >> reporter: at the very end, with president obama winning a coin toss and g

go after mitt romney, tear him down in a townhall setting without coming off too strong? >> right. you -- you can't be on the attack and act like you are in charge and command and confident. you have somehow need to do things like -- i recall treating mitt romney like the ants at the picnic. a minor diversion and already a number of republicans have backed away. bill clinton had bipart tanship his second term. ronald reagan has sinship the second time. >> jennifer: but in a townhall setting, i think this is a really tricky dance. i think people are expecting president obama to come out punch, punch punch. and it's a fine balance. >> i think questions work better than attacks. you know, how are you going to do that without doing this? there are questions you can ask. why haven't you trusted the american people with the details? are you still beating your wife? are you still hiding your tax plan? >> jennifer: according to the democracy core poll 53% of voters apparently care more about the candidate's plan for the future, and 36% base their vote on records. so s

down, another what's seen as a mistake of governor romney. >> i think it's interesting that the president said something which is that on the day after the attack he went in the rose garden and said that this was an act of terror. you said in the rose garden the day after the attack it was an act of terror? it was not a spontaneous demonstration? >> please proceed, governor. >> i want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror. >> get the transcript. >> he did, in fact, sir. let's call it -- >> could you say that louder, candy? >> jonathan, your thoughts on that moment? >> well, i thought that the president misled the american people on that because if you look at -- if he's claiming that that speech in the rose garden the white house policy of benghazi being a terror attack, that's contradicted by the press office for 14 days. jay carney asked about that specific thing on september 20th said that the white house did not, had not viewed it as a terror attack and romney is right o

. with president obama locked down in debate prep, our new poll shows romney supporters fired up as never before. >>> the comeback, a brand-new sign of the housing recovery. why this couple thinks they're going to make $60,000 in a matter of months and why it's good for your neighborhood. >>> classroom controversy. they are inexpensive language classes offered around the country for kids in budget-strapped school districts. wait until you hear who is paying for the teachers. >>> and living on the edge. the man who jumped down from space. tonight, we tell you what it felt like inside that suit to rocket through the stratosphere at 800 miles per hour. >>> good evening on this monday night. as we come on the air, the countdown is on to the big rematch between president obama and governor mitt romney. the next presidential debate just one day away, and here's where we are tonight, both men were hunkered down preparing for another duel, and a new poll shows president obama facing new headwinds. the abc news/"washington post" poll out today shows enthusiasm among obama supporters faltering while gover

, if i could have you sit down, governor romney. thank you. >> governor we have produced more oil. >> how much did you cut licenses and permits on federal land and water? >> governor romney here is what we did. there were a whole bunch of oil companies. >> i had a question. how much did you cut them by? >> i'm happy to answer the question. >> mr. president, have you looked at your pension? >> i've got to say -- >> mr. president have you looked at your pension? >> i don't look at my pension. it's not as big as yours. >> let me give you some advice. >> i don't check it that often. >> let me give you some advice. look at your pension. you also have investments in chinese companies. >>> let's bring in cbs news political director john dickerson and national journal white house correspondent major garrett. good morning. >> morning. >> major, did the president do what he needed to do to get back in the game? >> the president obviously did what he needed to do. he needed to inspire democrats completely depressed and demoralized by the president's awol debateperformanc

obama is losing ground. he now leads governor romney by just three points among likely voters, down from seven points last month. and in florida, governor romney is leading within the margin of error, 48 to 45%. just last month the president was leading by five points. big shifts. the critics are saying president obama needs to be more specific about what he would actually plan to do in a second term. charlie herd joins me now. he's a columnist for the washington times. great to have you here. happy sunday morning. >> great to be with you, jamie. >> they must really be prepping. the question is when they step on the stage for this debate, will the president be more specific about what a second term would actually mean? >> well, you know, it's really sort of a catch-22 for president obama in that regard because i think that much of what he's going to -- if he were to be honest about what he's going to do in a second term, he's done in the first term. in recent weeks mitt romney and paul ryan have both been very effective at attacking president obama on that count. they're just saying look

. so it's conceivable that governor romney could bring down gas prices, because with his policies we might be back in that same mess. what i want to do is to create an economy that is strong and at the same time produce energy. with respect to this pipeline that governor romney keeps talking about, we've built enough pipeline to wrap around the entire earth once. so i'm all for pipelines, i'm all for oil production. what i'm not for is us ignoring the other half of the equation. for example on wind energy, when governor romney says these are imaginary jobs, when you have thousands of people right now in iowa, right now in colorado who are working creating wind power with good-paying manufacturing jobs, and the republican senator in iowa is all for it providing tax cuts to help this work and governor romney says, i'm opposed. i'd get rid of it. that's not an energy strategy for the future, and we need to win that future. i intend to win it as president of the united states. >> i have to move you along. the next question is for you -- >> he got the first question, so i get the last que

is down. >> obama: no, it isn't. >> romney: production is down 14%. production on gas is down 9%. >> obama: that's not true. >> romney: it is true. no question the people recognize we have not produced more oil and gas on federal lands. and with federal waters and coal production is not up. coal jobs are not up. i was just at a coal facility where some 1200 people lost their jobs. the right course for america is to have a true all of the above policy. i don't think anyone really believes that you're a person who will be pushing for oil and gas and coal. you'll get your chance in a moment. i'm still speaking. the answer is i don't believe people think that's the case -- that wasn't a question. that was a statement. i don't think the american people believe that. i will fight for oil coal and natural gas and the proof -- the proof of whether the strategy is working or not is what the price is that you're paying at the pump. if you're paying less than you paid a year or two ago why then the strategy is working. bu

was mitt romney's high point of the night. >> i want to bring the rates down. i want to simplify the tax code and i want to get middle income taxpayers to have lower taxes and the reason i want middle income taxpayers to have lower taxes is because middle income taxpayers have been buried over the past four years. >> now, when the president talks about the tax plan, was not the the high point for undecided voters. so, could the president's form on the key issues cost him? i spoke with larry summers, former director of the -- and former treasury secretary. i asked him why the president is polling so poorly. on these crucial economic issues. >> the facts, the president's got to do much better. look, i can say that i want to eat a lot of dessert and lose 40 pounds. while those are great to have -- governor romney says he's going to cut middle people's taxes, cut high income people's tacks. he's going to preserve the program and the problem is, it just doesn't add up. it will get rid of half the government, or end up on middle class families. just doesn't work. >> let me ask you about anothe

that president obama pinned down mitt romney on what he was going to do to get to that $5 trillion deficit he'll make up with the tax reformation plan. it was a wonky debate. it has oxford and cambridge rules to it. jim lehrer said at the outset he would put out a big question. he couldn't control them when it came to time again. that's an issue. people were able it to match them up. tonight we'll have greater variety. tonight we hear more about medicare and hear more about social security and age eligibility, my guess is. how are you going to get those 12 million jobs that you have promised the american people specifically? i think the vice presidential debate is another wonky, pretty od debate. they went at each other. >> it's a fun one. >> these are two practice guys, two irish catholic political warriors. they got into the game because they love it a lot. they have more in common personally than differences, but it played out i agree with him more than i do with him. >> tom, one final question. what are the pit fafalls for ea candidate in tonight's debate? >> my guess is there will be a s

him down. more liberal analysts say obama's response to mr. romney took the issue of libya right off the table. what do you think? >> both are flat out wrong. first of all, candy crowley is a political expert and she knows the speech, what the president said in the rose garden. she had no idea that was going to come up. when she's seeing two people argue about it and knows for a fact he used the phrase "act of terror," she could solve it right there. that's the role of the moderator. sometimes you have to just be the referee. she tried to dispense with that issue and move on to the rest of the debate. the fact that he used the phrase "act of terror" does not put to bed this question why did it take so long for the administration to say no, there was no protest outside and to clarify what really happened. and so that will continue as an issue and in fact our next debate is about foreign policy and i think you will hear it come up there. carol? >> i think you're right. jessica yellin, thanks so much. then there was that interesting question about how governor romney is different from g

, there are ten angry ones taking action. trickle down does not work. in romney's world, cars get the elevator and the workers get the shaft. that is a whole bunch of bunk. the powerful may steal an election, but they can't steal democracy. ♪ >> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv, this is the "bill press show." >> bill: good morning everybody. welcome back again to the full court press coming to you live from our nation's capitol from our studio on capitol hill. this monday morning october 15, good to have you with us. one of the most exciting things that happened this year as far as i'm concerned were voices that have come out against the ryan budget and the republican attempts to really gut all programs impacting or helping the middle class and the poor, and one of the strongest group of voices coming from catholic sisters who banded together and put together their first bus tour called nuns on the bus. they went through nine states. it was so successful that kind of the model nuns of the bus tours have been popping up all over the country. the ringleader is sister

morris. you say a close election. >> yes. because it comes down. ohio? >> ohio is critical. i think obama may win ohio, but i think romney still wins the presidency because of florida, virginia, north carolina, and i think he is in play in places like wisconsin despite nbc's poll. >> bill: all right. governor thanks very much. we appreciate it only jazzing you on the banjo. i knew you played a bass guitar. >> i hope you know the difference, bill. i don't expect your musical -- i give you that much. >> bill: the governor did play bass for herman's her mans. >> yes, did i. >> bill: new poll you can be good friends with someone you disagree politically. hot poll. give you the results on monday. two handicappers say mitt romney will win in a landslide. what? that report moments away. >> bill: in the impact segment tonight, it is not legal to bet on the presidential race here in the u.s.a. a lot of people do it, of course. but in great britain, the odds are two to one that president obama is going to win. most people believe the vote is going to be very close but not everybody. joining us from

released earlier this month, romney breaks down how he would get to the magic 12 million. 7 million from his tax plan, 3 million from his energy policies, and 2 million from his policies on china as well as some other moves he'd make. joining me now is ezra cline, our msnbc analyst. you've dug into these numbers. do they add up? >> they don't come near it. i should say it's really my colleague glen kessler, our fact checker, when dug into them. turns out these 7 million jobs, that comes from an analysis of a tax plan. it's not quite romney's tax plan. first, it's over ten years, not the four years romney is promising. already we've got the time scale wrong. then it assumes the tax plan only goes into effect when the economy is already at full employment. lost in way that's happening. there's no way the economy is going to be at full employment in romney's first year no matter what. that's a very, very big effect on how many jobs you can create. an economy that has a lot of slack in the labor force, when you begin hurting industries by taking away their tax breaks, people get fired or not

's the devil's twin brother. >> mitt romney, tear down the outsourcing. >> bring back the jobs in freeport, illinois. >> what would you say to mitt romney? >> save my job. >> that's what you'd say to him? >> yeah, save my job. >> sir, what would you say to mitt romney? sir? >> help the people. >> help the people. help the people. how about you, sir? what would you say to mitt romney? >> save my wife's job. >> i would tell him, please save my mom's job. >> what would you say to mitt romney? >> just be honest. be honest. >> you don't think he's been honest? >> not at all. no. >> not at all? >> nope, he's never been honest. >> what would you say? >> in the debate he said he'd bring back manufacturing jobs. why doesn't he start here? >> see the passion of the people in freeport, illinois. mr. romney, maybe you should come on over. see what the folks have to say. while your pockets are lined. all right. tonight, in our text question, i asked, will mitt romney's economic policies destroy the american middle class? 96% of you said yes. 4% of you said no. >>> coming up, we're going to contrast the

want america to capture this. romney's economic plan has played out by the shutting down of a plant here in freeport, illinois, but barack obama's policies in going after, being tough on china, has saved the tire plant in this town? >> and even had the nerve to call out barack obama and call him a protectionist when he saved the jobs around freeport and the country and the tire entry. ed, this is not a person who deserves to be president. this is not a person who's going to stand up for working families in this country. and what we have to do is expose mitt romney for what it is and do everything we can to re-elect this president. >> fred, joanne, and bonnie, great to have you with us tonight. thanks for stepping up and speaking to america. >>> still to come on "the ed show," the local and national impact with the mayor of freeport, illinois, and john nichols will be joining me from "the nation" magazine. >>> then the stakes in this election are sky high. freeport, illinois, is a prime example of the economic differences between mitt romney and president obama. i will have a comment

did the secretary of energy say it is not government's role to keep gas prices down. mitt romney claimed that production under president obama, oil and gas production is down 14%. he said under president obama there's been no drilling on federal lands public lands. he also said that president obama rejected the keystone pipeline. so let's take them in order. gas price. is it the government's role? >> the questioner specifically asked if it is the energy department's role to set gas prices. the answer is no. it is the energy department's job to guard our arsenal of nuclear weapons. that's its primary purview. that's most of what its budget goes for. it is not the government's job to set gas prices. gas prices are dependent on the global price of oil. that is set on a global market by supply and demand. that's probably as it should be. nations that do control their country's gas prices such as venezuela, huge government subsidies. it is generally not looked at as good policy. neither candidate gave an honest an

on september 11th, governor romney issued what was a very rash and temperate statement, and he was roundly criticized for it. remember last week in the second debate he tried to pin president obama down on whether or not he had used the order counterterrorism. and he had. governor romney was wrong about that. the republicans have have reacted and i think there is a danger in going after the president on this issue. frankly i think the president has managed this pretty well. that ought to be the central issue, i would think, of this debate. >> eliot: the risk of the republicans, they overpoliticize an issue that americans do not want to see politicized and then romney bungling that lawyering against the president and candy crowly said you're wrong, governor romney. and then for a record that is not pristine i will say in how the president has spoken about this. and you said it was unfortunate where you rattled off a litany of issues that has been brought to this assault in bengahzi. how do we bring in relationship what we want to do globally with the economic not been discussed at all in th

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and mitt romney are hunkered down for their final face-off. final preparations are also being made at tomorrow's debate site. that's lynn university in boca raton, florida. you see it will. the verbal dual if will focus this time on foreign policy. wednesday mr. obama plans to pull an all-nighter both in key battleground states to launch a whirlwind tour of six states starting in iowa and he will cast his vote early in chicago on thursday. romney, meanwhile, held his final formal fundraising event last night. he has raised more than $361 million in his latest bid for the white house. >>> president obama has secured the endorsement of ohio's largest newspaper. the cleveland plane dealer says that obama has fumbled the economic recovery but also says he has led the nation back from the brink of depression. ohio in particular has benefit from his bold decision to revive the auto industry. it was gutsy, and it worked. ohioans are making cars in toledo and lordstown. they're back on the job. that's leadership that deserves a chance to finish the job. >>> mitt romney is picking up an end

romney that was knocked down in the first debate. what is now a parent in the debates is -- a parent in the debate is that the president has no plan for the next four years. >> reporter: aids for president barack obama say he has a plan. >> mitt romney should come out on a trail with us and come to some of our rallies, that would be fun, and throeufpb , and listen to what the president is a ising. >> reporter: monday's debate is the final match up. the focus, foreign policy sunday, 50 students won tickets to win to see the debate in person. >> i am so excited. i am about to cry. i am so excited. >> reporter: this 41-year-old single mother is back in college. looking for spectaculars from the candidates but -- specifics from the candidates but thinks the president has the edge. >> i think he knows what he is talking about but foreign policy is his thing. >> reporter: it will include the attack in libya and nuclear tensions with iran. >> you can watch the final presidential debate live tomorrow on cbs 5 starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> former south carolina governor has died. he tried to

romney. that's the battle. this may be the war. when it came down to the economic question, the key issues that are going to decide this election 20 days from now, debate watchers favored romney. in some of the recent polls, it's been closely tied with mitt romney only having an edge on the deficit, even there a small one. on the question of who would better handle the economy, the answer, mitt romney, by an 18-point advantage. who would better handle the deficit? mitt romney by 23 points. an better taxes, advantage romney. this time by seven points. the group of undecided voters in ohio seemed to agree. here was mitt romney's high point of the night. >> i want to bring the rates down. i want to simplify the tax code and i want to get middle income taxpayers to have lower taxes and the reason i want middle income taxpayers to have lower taxes is because middle income taxpayers have been buried over the past four years. >> now, when the president talks about the tax plan, was not the the high point for undecided voters. so, could the president's form on the key issues cost him? i spo

you sit down, governor romney, thank you. >> did you have trouble understanding what they were say ing? there were moments like that last night. romney did seem to spend more time interrupting than the president did and the moderator was also interrupted by him. did this come off as disrespectful or rude to you? i was with a focus group and they got that feeling. it was too much of that. >> i think he came across as very amped up. i think he was expecting a more aggressive president obama and i think he raised the energy level and it's quite possible they raised the energy level a bit too high. >> like the energizer bunny, turned him up to ten and couldn't tile it back to seven? >> i also think right out the gate with his first answer with his first question, it wasn't as strong and polished as his answer the last time around. i'm of the view that's how you build a foundation. i thought his rhythm was a little bit off. high level of aggression. >> john, i liked how you called it hall monitor mitt. a stickler for the rules. here he was last night. >> i got to move you to -- >> the first

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