to helps win, and mitt romney's going to do very well on foreign policy on monday. and no matter what candy owley did, i think that it'actually going to help us on monday when he does debate obama. >> yes? [laughter] i mean, listen, you're really upset about the stewart thing? he asked him the question, is it optimal -- lou: wait a minute,,i just asked you a question. >> he's asked, is this optimal? he says, well, no, it's not optimal when someonege killed, it's not optimal whe bad things happen. this is a, this is a pho piece of outrage. there's so manserious stuff to talk about,hy are we focusing on -- >> oh, els, you're missing the point. the president does not want to talk about benghazi, he doest want to -- lou: you want to get sious, the president of the united states lied about what he said in the rose garden. >> he did. lou: he was corroborated by the debate moderator. >> actually -- lou: no, what i'm saying is, actually, my finger is raised gher than yours. [laughter] >> this is the kind of stuff i think, frankly, voters this minor gotcha, can we twist this wwrd -- [inaudible coers