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. but i still think that the money he momentum is growing for romney. right now and we're, what, 25 minutes before the debate. romney's momentum is still growing. now, it could -- as soon as he gets into the debate, that could just bang, could hit a wall, all right? but right now everything is going romney's way, scott. >> everything has gone romney's way but i think you can easily overstate that, for the last 100 days the two candidates have been within three points of each other 89 times. it is a close race. if barack obama has a better night tonight, that momentum could stop, it could drift back the other way. bill, i don't think there is any way that anybody can safely say who is going to win this election. tonight, the next debate of important issues libya and economic issues. >> bill: by the end of the week you will have the first polling off this debate, right? >> yes. >> about friday i would assume. >> friday we will have good numbers. >> bill: thanks very much. we have a brand new bill o'reilly.com question for you. can you be good friends with someone with whom you disagre

, who is now backtracking saying that governor romney was right in the main on libya. but last night, during the debate, candy crowley failed when assuming role of on site fact checker, for more on debate, commission that decided to format in whether there was future in town tall debating, joining us now, is former reagan political director. fox news political analyst, ed rollins, that was an atrocious format, wasn't it? >> it was. it does not work, the moderator, who we both know from past lives, picks the questions, and there was a slant to them, but her end game she took the president's side, and obviously of not correct, knocked romney off balance at the end of a very important debate that was close to being deed even. even. lou: a moderate or interrupts one of the two participants 28 times and the other 9, either one is ill manners and other so well mannered or there is a big problem with the moderator, which was it? >> i think the moderate or, the two men, president was much better than he was the two weeks ago, and anybody economy better than he was the two weeks ago, they wer

and malarky, sketchy deals and sour faces. sounds like a debate involving mitt romney all right. plus for reasons god only knows, mitt romney once again waded into the auto bailout, the president promptly bloodied his nose with it. and my favorite moment of the debate. who showed character and who didn't? we'll be right back. oh my gosh this looks amazing! that's a good deal! [ man ] wow! it is so good! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15 entrees under $15 seafood, chicken and more! oo! the tilapia with roasted vegetables! i'm actually looking at the wood grilled chicken with portobello wine sauce. you so fascinated by the prices, you keep rambling on! i know! -that pork chop was great! -no more fast food friday's! so we gotta go! we're going to go to red lobster. yep. [ male announcer ] try our 15 under $15 menu and sea food differently! right by those who gave their lives to for this country nearly 70 years ago. >> jennifer: 65.6 million viewers watched last night's debate. it was just down 2.3% from the first debate. huge volume of viewers. what t

, sketchy deals and sour faces. sounds like a debate involving mitt romney, all right. we're going to take everything, turn it inside out and tell you what it all means. for reasons god only knows, mitt romney waded again into the auto bailout. the president bloodied his nose with it and i'll keep it there. my favorite moment was actually about character who showed it and who didn't. we'll be right back. that guy, put him in it. what's this? [ male announcer ] tell him he's about to find out. you're about to find out. [ male announcer ] test it. highlight the european chassis 6 speed manual, dual exhaust wide stance, clean lines have him floor it, spin it punch it, drift it put it through its paces is he happy? oh ya, he's happy! [ male announcer ] and that's how you test your car for fun. easy. right by those who gave their lives to for this country nearly 70 years ago. >> jennifer: 65.4million viewers watched last night as debate on television. it was down 2.3% from the first debate. huge volume of viewers. what they saw last night were the sharp contrasts between the pr

." >> governor romney is right on the federal permitting on federal land. megyn: barack obama kept talking about oil production as opposed to permit. >> governor romney is right on both counts. first of all, drilling, leasing, how many permits to go out there and drill on federal land, 9600 new leases issued for the first three years, 5600 new leases. down 42%. governor romney is right on that issue. towards the end of the soundbite that he played there, the issue was oil and gas production. oil and gas production on federal land. megyn: that is where obama wanted to go. he just wanted to talk about production. >> exactly. direct contradiction about the factual matter. oil and gas production on federal land -- this is production, stuff coming out of the ground, down. governor romney is right and the president -- it has gone up and not down. romney is right and obama is wrong. actually, that is what it is. megyn: he says it may have gone down because these oil companies are sitting there and not using federal lands for the user plans. >> he doesn't like it, drilling, and he took away these leases

. voters have a tough time making sense of that. romney is right to hammer the president about it because it creates the general impression is he as strong a leader that you need. but i don't think voters are going to vote on that. >> eliot: interestingly, romney, after he failed in that moment. that may be the emotional pivot point of the debate last night when candy crowley came in, after saying to the president you got it wrong. when it's blamed on this youtube video he would have been correct. >> it's unfortunate it seemed for a long time that the president and the white house were we had wedded to the videotape did it, and not to blame terrorism, but by saying the president didn't say act of terror he chose the exact wrong detail and lost a point he should have won handily. >> eliot: you're right when you have one point that is wrong the entire argument falls apart. >> and to make matters worse i felt bad watching it, he was so proud of himself as he edged up to it. oh, wow, now i got him. on a technicality he lost it all. it was a rivetting piece-- >> eliot: now the republicans imme

it should be the incumbent that should be leading, should be leading mitt romney right now you cannot put it on romney to win and third point, what was obama's plan in the fact that he didn't offer any vision for the next four years even got picked up by "new york times" editorial board today where they said what is he going to do the next four years and the "wall street journal" did the same thing. no vision for the next four years. no plan. >> you are having a stroke or --. >> i just am overwhelmed. just for purposes of the record, gallup has done a rolling poll for about three presidential elections which is not make a model for you. second, i don't believe that is an accurate statement if you have 50 percent at this stage of the game that you go on to win, i am not so sure. >> i am right. i stand by that 1 so percent. i would like to see john kerry versus public. there are only three races. you cannot make up a statement about historically, that is not 12 years. >> i called a person today that i trust, a mom, one of our co-hosts and i called and she was up and ready to go, if you are

have it right. a agree. i think romney has a -- larger point is right. i think candy crowley believes what she said if romney is right on the larnler point is that the administration maintains is not a premeditated. issue here he took a long time to acknowledge, romney is not. this is kind of pointing at the president saying you said thachl you said that. he did, you know, sorry saying are you claiming you said thachl the president had said that. i do think if people read the remarks next line refered to the four people who died in libya. small point he blew it. large point he's got a point. did anyone change their minds? democrats were depressed after that first debate. didn't know if ob yauma was in it to win it. >> let me tell what you i think in a twisted way. though he even though quote bhu it tonight. is that it would have just been a question in a series about 15 questions now it's going to dominate for the next day about what did happen or didn't happen. so in a sick way it's going to be a greater emphasis there is a flub. all right. steve, your favorite question tonight? do y

us. last night, he came prepared to play, president obama crushing mitt romney, starting right off the bat when he said hey dude, you don't have a five-point plan, you have a one point plan, which is all about regarding the rich, the rich people like you and screwing the middle class. great performance by president obama. let's talk about it, but first we'll take a little timeout to get the latest update. lisa ferguson standing by. good morning. >> good morning everyone. president obama does have a slight edge right now in who voters think won the debate. the new poll has him at 46% compared to mitt romney's 39. it was a much sharper and more aggressive president obama that we heard coming from him last night. we'll have a lot of fact-checking and explaining for you. i want to start off with libya. this is an area romney had a chance to come out on top and should have come out on top but this turned out to be one of the president's strongest moments of the night. >> the suggestion that anybody on my team or the secretary of state, our u.n. ambassador, anybody on my team would play

out the fact that candy crowley admitted later on that mitt romney was right on the libya terrorism issue. so it would be nice to include that the next time -- >> well let's include it right now. you love to jump right into it. let's go for that. talking about benghazi, let's play a chunk first of the original exchange. i know dana just had that a moment ago in her piece but we'll play it again and and and where candy jumps in and talks about act of terror and then we'll play what she said after that. go ahead. >> well you played it already. >> no, no, no, let's do it again. >> the day after the attack, governor, i stood in the rose garden. and i tolded american people and the world that we are going to find out exactly what happened. that this was an act of terror. and i also said that we're going to hunt down those who committed this crime. >> i want to make sure we get that for the record. because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror. >> get the transcript. >> he did, in fact, sir. so let me -- let me call it an act of terror. >>

-tested. i would be a little worried if i was a romney supporter right now going into this particular type of debate where empathy for the common person is on display or lack thereof. these are questions posed by audience members that are undecided voters, and the question that the viewer will inevitably ask is who among the two men is relating to the life situation of these individuals. i don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that the person who was raised by a single mother, whooz grandfather was unemployed and had student loans to pay off a few years ago is going to be able to make that connection better than the guy who's daddy was a governor and multi-millionaire and raised in a private school. >> in all fairness not all wealthy people close their minds? the kennedys are not scraping pennies together, and certainly they are considered one of the most fill lan tlop pick families of all time. it's who you are in time. it's separate and apart from george romney. it's who mitt romney is. >> tamron, there are examples of very wealthy individuals who have became president an

there on the campaign trail doing what obama didn't do last week -- exposing mitt romney's hard right baggage. with us today, "new york" magazine's john hileman, christian science monitor, liz liz, and henderson henderson from "the washington post," and from "the daily beast," andrew sullivan. thursday night's debate was everything the romney and obama presidential debate had not been. >> you can still preserve the important tant things for middle class taxpayers. >> it's not mathematically possible. >> it's not mathematically possible. it's never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times. >> it has never been done. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> this tuesday night it's back to the main events. barack obama probably will tone it down a bit from biden's intensity. he's going to try to make romney look insincere. here's how bill clinton pulled it off with a gentle dismissal of bob dole in their town hall-style debate back in 1996. >> i think wisdom comes from age, experience and intelligence. and if you have some of each -- and i have some of each age, some experience, some intelligence.

romney was right and citing right wing blog posts that asserted that to be the case about the president's remarks. it wasn't true. it was a truth on the right wing for right wingers only talking to one another when you have a campaign on foreign policy tough? particular by people who are really creatures of the right wing blog group sometimes on tv in live fact checking moments, it shows. all right, there was a lot of policy ground covered tonight that had not been covered in the first debate. our policy analyst ezra klein is coming up to go over key moments in how they stack up. [ lisa ] my name's lisa, and chantix helped me quit. i honestly loved smoking, and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. it put me at ease that you could smoke on the first week. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these stop

to continue as president. and then go after mitt romney. i think it's a little dicey if he goes right after mitt romney. >> jennifer: that's for sure. >> eliot: we near a townhall setting. in the vice presidential debate it was the three in the first debate it was really mitt romney and nobody else, so mitt romney had the entire stage. tonight you have a real person a citizen -- somebody whom you have got to interact with. did you ever have a townhall-type debate? >> jennifer: no. i was had a one on one kind of debate. >> eliot: have you in the comedy context? >> we have people called hecklers. but i do think it is very much about performance. and you guys know this way better than i do i think when it comes to a debate of this magnitude words don't matter as much as style and tone. my theory has held true for two debates that the guy who looks like is having the most fun is the guy who wins the debate. >> jennifer: i would say that's right, but his opportunity to speak with clarity about the choice that is before america and that's what i mean by a moral choice -- this

, then the politicians respond. i think that is what we need. you can see mitt romney's zipping over to the right as fast as he can -- this is to appease the right wing and the billionaires that are finding him. the community organizing groups, the faith-based groups, those pushing for a foreclosure relief and a higher minimum wage and a stronger jobs program, i think if the president gets reelected, and they are out there protesting in the streets, i think we will see a different kind of obama administration in the second term. tavis: you are not the first person that has said that he might be a differently if he gets a second term. i asked what in his backstory, what in his record, what in his life gives you reason to believe that he will respond to a progressive push? >> i think the best example of that was during the health-care debate. it looked like the president had given up, and all of a sudden, the folks were out there protesting in front of insurance companies, going over to the homes of c.e.o.'s, getting themselves arrested, and i think the president got a backbone as a result of that, and i t

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. by bringing up 100%, romney threw a big slow one right over the plate. if obama had tried to introduce the 47% without it getting teed up, it would have looked artificial. and as it happened, because the debate ended on that, romney did not get to rebut. and so the last impression which is important is voters' minds is a guy who behind closed doors which is where people think you tell the real truth, what you really think about people, he was dissing half of the american public. and that was a powerful, powerful message for obama to end the debate on. >> i think the 47% wanted to hear it. and they wanted to hear it from obama. let's move on. the other questions tonight. what did you make of the president's ability to be tough without being -- without losing his likability and his presidential status. did he achieve that goal today? >> oh, yes. and the most important part of this debate was the libya exchange. but the reason it was so important was because of how obama stared right into romney saying basically i am the commander in chief, you are not. i understand how this job is done. how dar

rates, you can draw a line of the states that seem to be leading, perhaps, towards romney right now, and having higher unemployment rates and those that have lower unemployment rates, in the midwest, for instance. ohio is an example. do you think that's where the line will be drawn, in terms of which way these states will go? >> listen, it's really good news right now about the economy. obviously, there's a lot more work that needs to be done, but all the numbers that are supposed to be going up are going up. we've got jobs numbers that are up, unemployment numbers that are down. housing prices are starting to go up, foreclosures are going down. new starts going up. you see manufacturing and especially the auto industry growing at rates that you haven't seen since the clinton administration. >> is it enough, though? is it enough to get those voters in those swing states off the center to say, i'm going to go with the president, because of that? >> well, what they have to understand, and this is part of the challenge over the next weeks, is that the recovery is taking hold. the presi

that romney was in the right and i just think that he picked the wrong word. that's what she said. make sure you tune into fox and friends later this morning because they will be getting reaction to this controversy from the obama campaign advisor robert gibbs at 7:00 a.m. eastern and the presidential candidates not only sparring over libya the tepgss were high and candidates were aggressive. take a look at the other heated exchanges exchangeses. >> that's not what you have done in the last four years. that's the problem. in the last four years you cut permits and licenses. >> not true. >> how much did you cut them by? >> we have produced more oil. >> how much did you cut licenses on federal land and waters? >> here's what we did. there was a bunch of oil companies. >> i had a question how much did you cut them by. >> i know you want to keep detroit bankrupt. you took general motors bankrupt. you took chrysler bankrupt. when you say i wanted to take the auto industry bankrupt you actually did. i think it's important to know that was a process that was necessary to get those companies back on

outside of the home. >> is romney slick? >> no. >> is romney antiwoman? >> no. >> final comment right there? >> i can't think of any time i've seen mitt romney say... we're going back to stone ages. and i don't know where this came from. >> did romney win your vote today? >> he with did. yes. >> sean this, is as significant as what we had in denver 10 days ago. this group really swung. we'll find out what moved them. back to you. >> we're going to check in with frank luntz. great job. we're going to check back with him with this focus group. joining me now in the spin room, romney campaign senior advisor is here with us. >> sean, thank you for having me. >> we've got videotape we're going to show that proves the president lied and got that wrong. i would say this is a single, mitt romney went through the single best prosecution of how bad last four years was. he talked about cost of health kairks mid heel class he said krushd under this president. we don't have to live this way. there is one in six americans in poverty. 3 to, 47 million the rise in food stamps. and policies we tried t

was given the chance to compare mitt romney with george bush, he said romney was more right wing than the former president. >> there are some things where governor romney is different from george bush. heck, george bush didn't propose turning medicare into a voucher. george bush embraced comprehensive immigration reform. he didn't call for self-deportation. george bush never suggested that we eliminate funding for planned parenthood. so there are differences between governor romney and george bush, but they're not on economic policy. in some ways, he's gone to a more extreme place when it comes to social policies. >> this onslaught by president obama put mitt romney in a rough position. just like his answer on libya, romney had to move out of his comfort zone to respond to these allegations. he tried to say that he would be tough on china and president obama blasted him. >> trade. i'll crack down on china. president bush didn't. >> when he talks about getting tough on china, keep in mind that governor romney invested in companies that were pioneers of outsourcing to china. >> then rom

, just the right way. >> steve schmidt, how do you think the president and mr. romney did? >> one of the things i think is clear if the president had performed like this in the first debate, mitt romney would never have been able to get back in the game the way that he did. but i'm not sure that the president's performance is enough to arrest mitt romney's momentum in the race. i think when mitt romney says we don't have to settle, the president said he would, but he didn't. implicit in all of the romney attacks is that things are going to be better when i, mitt romney, am president. and i think the president lacking a clear second term agenda that he's articulating is forced into a position where he is defending a status quo. i would say on the issue of energy, i give that to mitt romney, because in fact energy prices have again up and i think that's the bottom line. >> he was defining that as the bottom line. >> i think that -- i agree with chris that the argument gets complicated. i think on the issue of coal, you hear a message that is being aimed squarely into pennsylvania, i

in romney's favor right across the country. tonight, both candidates came out ready for a fight. and here's how it all happened. >> candy, what governor romney said just isn't true. >> it was a real scrap. from the outset, both men went on the attack. mitt romney hammering home his basic campaign theme. >> the president's policies have been exercised over the last few years and they haven't put americans back to work. >> reporter: this time, president obama was ready. attacking crisply and frankly. >> governor romney says he has a five-point plan? governor romney doesn't have a five-point plan, he has a one-point plan. that plan is to make sure folks at the top play by a different set of rules. >> reporter: within the first 20 minutes as they argued about the president's record on energy, they almost seemed to want to wrassel each other. >> we are now -- >> and production on government on government land is down -- >> no, it isn't. >> of oil is down 14%. and production -- >> what you're saying is just not true. >> that's absolutely true. >> reporter: they really don't like each other. >>

specifically, that would imply there's been a change in the race in mr. romney's favor. right now, though, that poll does sort of stick out. it's an outlier in terms of being more favorable to romney than everything else with polls like this at the combined state level. all of the national polls released today show the race is essentially a dead heat. tracking shows romney up by 2. the rasmussen poll has romney up by 1. investors business daily has the race at a tie. and the new abc news "washington post" poll shows obama up by 3. here's where it gets interesting. a ton of polling stuff comes out every day. every day there's at least one super interesting thing. and right now the thing most important, i think most intriguing in the data out of all the snapshots of the race is this. this right here is probably the most interesting thing. abc news and "washington post" polled voters nape didn't just ask who do they like. they asked which candidate would be better on a series of issues. here's what they found. on the issue of the economy, it's president obama by 4. taxes, president obama by

more women in that set that are more comfortable with any republican, including mitt romney. >> right. richard, this debate will be a mix of domestic issues and foreign policy. the first time the two men will face off on the tragedy of benghazi, the unrest in the middle east. how much do you think this will factor into the president's efforts to regain his grounds on this issue? >> well, i think there's going to be a really important couple of exchanges. at the bare minimum when you look at where the romney campaign is trying to score points on benghazi, the president needs to point out the obvious here, not only is this a chaotic -- was a chaotic situation, remains so, but gadhafi is gone. when you look at the record of this president in libya, an enemy of the united states for many, many decades is no longer in power tormenting his people and the rest of the people because of maamerican policy wi mitt romney and the republican party in general has poured scorn on. what is the difference between these two campaigns? again, a tactical approach from the romney campaign, but for the pre

. >> right. >> bret: the economy still drives the day. how does mitt romney play in the state? obviously he has a place here at liclake winnipesaukee. how does he play in the state, andy? >> i think he does well here, probably better than in other states largely because he's seen as a moderate republican candidate from his time in massachusetts. >massachusetts. >> bret: people know him here. >> they know him, but republican voters are largely moderate republicans. he fits in with the political character of the state of new hampshire. the bigger problem he faces is not so much whether people know him or not. it's that the state has become increasingly democratic as kevin referenced over the last ten years or so. democrats have about a 5% edge in the state. he has to motivate the republicans who kind of like him to make up for the democrats' difference in numbers. >> this is becoming a classic new hampshire election. this has been a swing state. we have the live free or die motto. we're the most libertarian state this side of the mississippi. the question for new hampshire elections is about

romney in tonight's debate? please tweet me. we'll have your tweets right after the break and i'll try and answer them. next up markets are up triple digits and the shocker on wall street. don't forget folks free market capitalism still the best path to prosperity. i hope we hear some tonight. >>> welcome back to the kudlow report. we pose a question what would you ask president obama or governor romney at tonight's debate? one of our viewers asked how can we bring back confidence for the regular guys? >> we did have a big day on wall street. hello bob. this is the second day in the row that we closed on the highs. there was talk out of europe that spain may be near a deal to have them buy their bonds. margins were on the light side. that hurt them. earnings better than expected but the revenues were on the light side. back to you. let me ask you right at the top. victor pandit out at city. what do you say to on investor that owns city. should they stay with it? >> the company is well positioned. looking at the problems that banks have around the world, this company has fixed it's bala

that, we will bring you president obama and mitt romney, you can see there on the right side of your vescreen alo with his wife. we'll bring you those remarks as they deliver them. for what might be a preview of the president tonight, here is how then-candidate barack obama did in 2008. that same night with john mccain. >> there is no other crowd in america that i'd rather be palling around with right now. john mccain is on to something. there was a point in my life when i started palling around with a pretty ugly crowd. i've got to be honest. these guys were serious deadbeats. they were low lives. they were unrepentant. no good punks. that's right. i've been a member of the u.s. senate. some of the rumors out there are getting a bit crazy. fox news actually accused me of fathering two african-american children in wedlock. it is an honor to be here with al smith. i obviously never knew your great-grandfather, but from everything senator mccain has told me, the two of them had a great time together before prohibition. so. >> that was barack obama in 2008 at the al smith dinner which i

and we'll be getting to those in a moment. but right now, as you can see, mitt romney is approaching the podium at the al smith dinner in new york city. w. kamau bell is on set here with me to do comedic strategic advice and criticism for these candidates after these speeches tonight. we'll hear from mr. romney then we will hear from president obama. here we go. >> cardinal dolan, mr. president, governor cuomo, mayor bloomberg, senator schumer, al and ann smith, thank you for your invitation. thank you for your extraordinarily warm welcome. ann and i appreciate your friendship very, very much. thank you. now, al, you are right. a campaign can require a lot of wardrobe changes. we -- blue jeans in the morning, perhaps. suits for a lunch fund-raiser. sport coat for dinner. but it's nice to finally relax and wear what ann and i wear around the house. i'm glad to be able to join in this venerable tradition. of course, i'm pleased that the president's here. we were chatting pleasantly this evening as if tuesday night never happened. and i credit that, of course, to the cardinal. it's take

to the right and, of course, governor romney in the primary has to run more to the right. still the nixon doctrine, run to the right in the primaries and center in the general election but because of the tea party shifting everything in that direction, he had to be way more conservative than he probably really is and certainly more than he was as governor of massachusetts which, by the way is the opposite of a conservative state. >> politics nation with reverend al sharpton only on msnbc, the place for politics. >>> all right, now check of wall street. how it will kick offer the day. the dow closed at 13,557 as adding 5 points yesterday, the s&p up 6, the nasdaq gained almost 3. in overseas trading on this thursday, in tokyo, the nikkei surged 176 points while in hong kong the hang seng climbed 102. >>> well, wednesday is good news at home, had a ripple effect overshares. asian shares hit a seven-month high. september home construction soared 15% over august driving up home builders and suppliers like home depot and lowe's. but it wasn't all good news. ibm's lackluster earnings were a dra

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the debate -- i watched the first debate in denver and it was like romney won, right. but it got blown up a lot, right? romney never really had had a sustained period frankly of favorable news coverage. where the republican primary ended with a whimper more than a bang. the gop convention was kind of a dud. so maybe he timed his moment very, very well right? where you could be in what is technically a bounce but it carries through to november 6th. >> stephanie: right. i'm wondering to what degree you think -- >> most people's analysis is mitt romney got fact checks in real time at -- this debate, and the first time he got fact checked afterwards. >> i wonder if romney's comments about working women won't ultimately be more of a story. i think he may have struck the wrong chords with some female swing voters and undecided voters potentially, and that could have a longer-term impact. but there were things -- one thing about the denver debate is there weren't that many kind of youtube clip-type moments. it was more obama's demeanor. whereas in this debate you do have a lot

these two brothers, one of whom works for mitt romney. >> right. >> what in the world is thanksgiving dinner like around your table? >> we've had some bad ones. but we talk about -- >> can't talk about the iraq war. >> no, we can't talk about that. >> fist fight on the front lawn. seriously. >> my mother got us sick one day. but that's a different story. you know what? there've been some really -- to have the boys and my dad stirring the pot and my mom the artist and me. it's why i do this show right now. literally. i am the family diplomat. i am made to do the morning joe show every morning because of what my family put me through. because they fought. my parents celebrated fighting it out over ideological differences, differences on foreign policy, on world view, on social issues. my dad would put something on the table, red meat, and we'd all go after it. it started like at age 5. we'd be asked about, you know, the economy, and i'd be like, well -- well first of all, could you tell me what that is? i'm 5. but they wanted us to think, and they wanted us to put ourselves out there and expos

that right now, including the fact that in total romney seems to have an edge in the battleground states? >> well, first of all, david, i would say on the battleground state issue, you guys also issued polls in the last week that showed us with an eight-point lead in iowa. i think we had a lead in ohio. you showed us having a lead in florida. so i don't know how to square all of the polling that nbc is releasing. but i do think that this is going to be a very close race, and we've said that consistenty. i think if you look back at your tape, every time i visited with you i have predicted this will be a close race. but we feel good about where we are. we feel we're even or ahead in these battleground states. and if you look at the early voting that's going on around the country, it's very robust and it's very favorable to us. and we think that's a better indicator than these public polls which are frankly all over the map. >> all right. we'll leave it there. david axelrod, thank you very much. >> good to be with you. >> thank you. >>> coming up here, our political roundtable weighs in. we

issue. the 47%, the phony romney economic policy, the romney tax giveaway to the rich, on women's rights, on immigration, on the auto bailout. but the most striking response of the whole night came on the suggestion that he played politics over the death of the libyan ambassador. president obama showed presidential leadership and made the governor look small. >> the day after the attack, governor, i stood in the rose garden and i told the american people and the world that we were going to find out exactly what happened, that this was an act of terror, and i also said that we're going to hunt down those who committed this crime. and then a few days later i was there greeting the caskets, coming into andrew's air force base and grieving with the families. and the suggestion that anybody in my team, whether the secretary of state, our u.n. ambassador, anybody on my team would play politics or mislead when we've lost four of our own, governor, is offensive. that's not what we do. that's not what i do as president, that's not what i do as commander in chief. >> it was a powerful moment. he t

: please proceed governor. >> cenk: all right let's proceed to the worse moment for romney. are you different than george w. bush. look at this terrible answer. >> romney: president bush and i are different people and these are different times. we can now by virtue of new technology get all the energy we need in north america without having to go to the arabs or venezuelans, that wasn't true in his time. number two trade, i would expand trade in latin america. i'll present a balanced budget. president bush didn't. president obama is right. it was outrageous to have deficits of. >> cenk: that's the best you got? we don't need the arabs any more and i'm going to kick some chinese ass? that was horrible. do you know why he doesn't have a good answer? because he does have the same plan as george w. bush. that is to cut more taxes than bush and create more wars than george w. bush in the middle east. that's not all. president obama took that opportunity to pile on and talk about the social side of romney as well. watch. >> obama: there are some things where governor romney is different f

romney and trying to develop this narrative and jim oh point is right. when you see governor romney unfiltered, that whole narrative implodes. he is not a radical guy of the governor and the president doesn't have a plan. >> jon: "new york times" and wall street editorials both made that point. they both said in the course of their editorials, journal out of ammunition. there is no reason to think that obama's second term would be better than the first. so obama won the debate has no plan. that is out. there. i think it's very damaging. reporters don't want to get completely away where the friend is going. they are happy to be on one side but they don't want to look like idiots if obama loses by ten points. >> jon: they say they have portrayed mitt romney a certain way and now people can see him, they are changing their minds. they are forming opinions on the man himself. do you agree? >> yes, but there is a qualifier. when you get a statement like binders full of women. when you hear a comment from governor romney, it's subjected to interpretation. gee, that is like i have a blackb

, barack. >> stephanie: okay. boy, everything's going bad for romney right now. did you see the story? [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] paul ryan photo president. not only was it exposed for the phony photo op it was cleaning already clean dishes, the president said he didn't have permission. they broke in there for the photo op. we're nonpartisan. wouldn't do this for anybody. talk about all of the air going out of the romney/ryan balloon yesterday. [ wah wah ] >> nonprofits are not allowed to -- >> stephanie: that's what he said. >> that destroys their chances of getting fundingde or the other. they just play it all sides. >> stephanie: by the way, how american president did the president go. seriously, all of my dreams are coming through. [ ♪ magic wand ♪ ] he did say he's the president. i'm andrew shepherd -- assault weapons ban. right out of a movie. [ applause ] come on. this was commander in chiefy. >> and the suggestion that anybody in my team, whether secretary of state our u.n. ambassa

romney's job, it's all about what is happening right here in america. today, the president said, mitt romney is trying to forget how his economic policies benefit the very rich like the owners of this factory. >> he's forgetting what his own positions are. and he's betting that you will, too. i mean, he's changing up so much and back tracking and sidestepping. we've got to -- we've got to name this condition that he's going through. i think -- i think it's called romnesia. that's what it's called. if you come down with a case of romnesia and you can't seem to remember the policies that are still on your website or the promises you made over the six years you've been running for president, here's the good news. obama care covers pre-existing conditions. we can fix you up. we've got a cure. we can make you well, virginia. >> this disease is contagious. vice president joe biden says paul ryan, oh, he's come down with it. >> ryan's saying his budget doesn't decimate medicare and medicaid and eviscerate education. it's a little like mitt romney standing in an unemployment line in florida a

. they want to see a more trusting relationship with romney that they don't feel like they have right now. i do some work on the project and had the privilege of watching dial groups. and in some ways they weren't feeling the real details that they wanted from either candidate. but they certainly feel a more trusting and connected relationship to president obama than they do governor romney right now. >> nbc spoke with undecided voters after the debate. here's what one long island woman said about the responses to that equal pay question. >> i felt like obama gave actual examples of why he felt passionately about the subject and what he would do about it. he related it not just to women but how womens issues play into the nation as a whole. which is true because a lot of women are breadwinners or have to look out for themselves now. whereas romney's answer to the question more seemed like he just said i had women on my board and i filled the quota. >> did mitt romney give a patronizing answer? and put this into context for me in terms how important the womens vote it. >> it's huge. i'm not f

morning. is governor romney right when he says there's nothing illegal about bosses telling employees basically who to vote for? >> he's absolutely right. i have to say, randi this, thing has stirred up a firestorm, hornet's nest of discussion about is it right for employers to do this, to say, hey, you vote for obama, the economy is going to tank and you're going to lose your job. now, a lot of employers are saying that to employees, but you know something? under existing u.s. law that is perfectly legal. it's protected free speech. it's the employer expressing his political opinion, and it's legal, even though a lot of people think, hey, it's coercive. the employer has a lot of leverage here that the employee doesn't have. >> right. >> but romney i think is technically correct. i think it's bad politics but good law, i have to say. >> one thing for bosses to suggest to their employees who to vote for, but to pressure them, saying if i lose money here and we go out of business, obviously they are pressuring them in terms of job security, is that legal as well, do you think then? >> o

. >> right, the over thing on that poll is of those women, they favor president obama over mitt romney. the other issue in that poll is that access to contraception. another huge issue for women. they favor obama that is why clearly the romney campaign, they have been trying to walk back from the extremist positions. she told you he is this but campaigned that way. on the binders, here is why i think it hit a nerve with women. he didn't actually answer to say it is about binders of women without having the courage to say, i wouldn't have signed it. he didn't have the gut to say that, instead, they are using the language to trick women into believing that he is not the extremist that he is. >> let's listen to the man who would keep a president romney in line on the issue of abortion let's listen to what rush said today about what he says democrats really think about women. >> all they think you do is have sex, want birth control pills and want an abortion afterwards. and then, somebody comes along and asks for resumes of qualified women for meaningful jobs and they will make fun of you.

. >> governor romney said we should get detroit go bankrupt. >> reporter: but mitt romney pushed right back. >> the president took detroit bankrupt. you took general motors bankrupt. you took chrysler bankrupt. so, when you say that i wanted to take the auto industry bankrupt, you actually did. >> reporter: that's the way it was much of the night. >> have you looked at your pension? >> i have to say -- >> mr. president, have you looked at your pension? >> i don't look at my pension. it's not as big as yours. >> reporter: the republican challenger told president obama that the middle-class has been crushed over the last four years. >> 23 million people struggling to find a job. the president's policies have been exercised over the last four years. and they haven't put americans back to work. >> reporter: it took more than an hour for the debate to turn to foreign policy. once it did, the candidates bitterly argued about the administration's handling of last month's attack in libya that killed four americans, including the u.s. ambassador. >> i want to make sure we get that for the record. it

they are whether they are going to turn out to vote at all. right now the young romney supporters who are a small group, are a lot more energized and they tend to be embedded in a infrastructure of churches and other organizations that are sure to get out to vote. our young people are not clear that they are going to get out to vote. 11 million young voters didn't show up in 2010. that would be a disaster in 2012. so there's renewed emphasis on getting young people out to vote and talking about what is at steak here in terms of jobs, affordable health care, and a future, and things like equal pay which means a lot to young women as well, along with unmarried voters. >> jennifer: keeping on young people for just a second. the president is hitting these college campuses at critical times, and the question is, will it actually get them to vote. i think in ohio president obama was urging students to take buses provided for them to take advantage of early voting. >> yes. and what we're trying to do is also get more voting places. really what should happen governor, those kids shou

romney. it's a referendum on barack obama. >> exactly right. >> bill: wrom think doesn't have a to make that. >> exactly wrong. >> bill: all is he going to say i am going to do it? >> do you think with all the problems barack obama has and the economy and everything else that mitt romney is still tied with him? if you had a decent candidate they should have a a% or 7% lead by now. >> bill: i will answer that question in the sense of what you just said. it's hard to dislodge a guy you know for four years in place of a guy you don't really know. if you demonize a guy him. hoover, jimmy carter, then the vote is going to be against obama rather than for romney. >> i think the obama campaign has done a good job of demonizing mitt romney and i don't think the guy likes him very much. >> bill: why did he he surge. >> he he did have structural change in the election. >> bill: that changed peoples minds. >> changed some people's minds not enough. >> bill: what do you mean not enough. >> not enough. >> bill: he is up 6 in the gallup poll. six. >> what does that mean? >> bill: that means that he w

this all-out war for the women's vote right now. >> well, first of all, governor romney has made it clear in the debates, the gop primary that was wrapped up back in the late spring, that he would like to overturn roe v. wade. if that's the case, that is the law of the land, and that means he will do so. i have to take him at his word, to quote the president. if that's the case, that sounds to me like a war on women. why? because men can't have abortions. men do not have that ability. i hate to bring it down to such a base level, but that's a fact. if that's the case, since the settled law of the land is, in fact, and has been since 1974 roe v. wade, then, in fact, if he would like to do that -- if i were a woman, i'd be scared. i wrote about this on the night of the debates in our msnbc.com about how women are the key. women rule this country. they run this country. they run our households. they run many of our businesses, especially small businesses. they run our schools. so if that's the case, and you're out there saying that this is what i'm going to do, despite the fact it's been the

a remarkable performance by mitt romney. stay right here we'll have the real dee bait beginning in a mere 3 seconds stay right here. ♪ >> eliot: welcome back. it is politically direct current tv's coverage of the second presidential debate. i'm joined here by governor jennifer granholm, two-term governor of michigan. i always say the best speaker at the democratic convention. she stirred the audience and our own john fuglesang whose great show will be beginning shortly. so in a minute and less, we'll have the opening bell. jennifer, what do you expect to see the president do to show he's in command he's in charge. >> jennifer: i think he will speak with clarity about the differences between him and mitt romney. i think he will bring it home with optimism and passion. >> john: i think the president needs to show he's more comfortable around humans. this is the forum to do it. >> eliot: tonight will be about differences and contrast. if there was a word in the last debate, it was convergence. the president seemed to be malleable.

romney right now. america crossroads going up with $11 million in ads in battle ground states to try to reinforce that narrative. one thing to keep an eye on that i have heard from several advisers this is as much about stagecraft as substance, what they were doing behind the scenes. among the questions romney was sort of discussing with his advisers was one of the questions asked, do you look at the camera, do you look at the president, do you look at the questioner, where do you look? that someone of the things to keep an eye on, the body language, like mitt romney described as awkward sometimes. >> i have been stunned, frankly, how open they have been about this with you and others on the stagecraft aspect to this they really think they have no substance issues, they are just worried about stagecraft? >> they feel like they handled the substance issues in the first one, got their message out, that americans feel so much more comfortable with them. in essence, doing the same thing as last time, trying to lower expectations, say, this shut president, guy smooth working the room, we

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