a lot of women. i think obama can win women back. i think that's what this -- that's what big bird's been about. a lot of the debate's been about it. >> greta: bring women back, but they've been running on this romney binder thing. look, it's not scientific. women i know in fox, out of fox, they're, like, we're not that stupid, to think a binder of women thing is -- oh, he said, "binder of women," now we don't like that guy. we're not that stupid. all the things women have struggled for in this country, that made me think less of that campaign. >> greta: you know, at the convention, i love women or we love women, i mean, it sort of just -- you know, it's sort of over the top, sort of grabbing for it. that's what they're fighting over. if ryan held women largely in that second debate, i think, because of biden's performance, biden may have won on the policy argument, but all that sort of smirking and tough, i think, turned people off. and so ryan was able to hold women that romney had -- with his performance that pulled them in, and now look, this is what -- this is what the last 18