the pause and say what did he just say? at one point he reveals that people remember the rezko/obama house deal which was so controversial for obama, and mr. gibson helped break that story. he, he's on the phone with an adviser and says, well, you know, patty was almost the agent on that deal. what do you think of that? and the person he's talking to actually says, what did you just say? [laughter] you know, things like he voted, he talks about his voting record, there's a lot of republican votes in there. he says he voteed for george h.w. bush, and he thinks reagan is his model, and at one point he's talking to this aide and says, you know, if you would tell anybody that, i'll wait a little bit, and then i'll find a way to fire you. you can totally hear his personality. >> what jeff said about the volume is right. it's more rod blagojevich talking crazy talk. but or for these people it was, that he talked to four, five, six, seven b times a day for periods anywhere from a couple minutes to an hour, this was their daily lives. like, this was their existence working for rod blagojevich. for