record. what i didn't really get a sense of, what is the vision of four more years of obama? we had hope and change. the hope didn't really materialize and there wasn't a grey great deal of change. >> i mean, that's where i actually disagree. there was a lot of hope i've had that's been delivered upon. from issues of equity, the lilly ledbetter law. i hope people get equal work and equal pay. gays in military. on economic issues, i'm in a city that when the country's in a recession, urban areas are in a depression. programs working with obama from the stimulus, you name it, we're in a period of creating thousands of jobs, over 5,000 jobs created in newark, hope my city hasn't seen before. when it comes to small businesses, i saw this, clearly. in fact, as i stump around the country, i see people in flint, michigan, spa, other programs president obama dwint just cut taxes but gave us capital at a time we desperately needed it. >> 23 million americans unemployment and a $16 trillion debt. these are two huge stakes mitt romney can keep way fort next -- >> but there is a level of hypocrisy.